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Detectivegregg1995_max50

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Posted 3 months ago

 

Should Security Officers be armed?
Should they be allowed Less-Lethal weapons?
What protocol should be followed if they are unarmed and are pinned? besides that last minute on earth prayer?

Marvin_martian_max50

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There are 2 different commissions available to security in my area: Armed and Unarmed, often referred to as Officer (armed) and Guard (unarmed) KCPD sets the standards for what you can carry, and qualifies the armed officers. I think if a Security officer carries a gun, he/she should be able to carry whatever else they can get training on, such as OC, baton, or taser. They are all less lethal tools.


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Detectivegregg1995_max50

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I agree. Thank God that I am a LEO, as well as doing VIP / Private Security and my CSI training and working as a CSI. I was trained by another "Agency" in combat techniques (CQB), martial arts, as well as being a sniper. Any training any officer can get they should grab, not only does it improve the "Survival rate" it also shows if you do have an OIS
(Officer Involved Shooting) it will help not only with the IA Unit's status on you but if it reaches Civil Court and you have your Ducks in a row the jury, or Grand jury will review your background and substantiate whether Lethal force was needed.
And believe me you better have every step of the handbook from verbal all the way to Lethal memorized by heart.
Gregg

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Go to the Virginia DCJS web site there is a lot of info on both sides of the fense and plenty of ideas and examples of how to and how not run a program for both.

Ares_max50

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Security officer should definitely be allowed flashlights and walkie talkies as standard issue. Everything else needs to be case by case depending on the field of security. Obviously your brinks, wells, loomis, fargo type of folks need to be armed. But the guy down at the mall absolutely not unless he is a prior LEO.


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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

There are also some private companies, such as Wackenhut and others, that perform security at high risk, high security installations. Granted, they generally recieve a considerable amount of training, depending on the assignment. Many stateside military posts are also hiring private security to work the gates and other entry areas. They are generally armed.


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Gold_20star_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

ALWAYS....be a 'pack'n....

Ares_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

whistles and flashlights that's it


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KSP494 said:

whistles and flashlights that's it

and a HAT


.......If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough !!!

Opinions_max50

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top flight


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1080_max50

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CBONE,,,where is there hat?


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Opinions_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Couldn't find a good one with the hat....thought this one was better!

But I will keep searching....


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Opinions_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Is this better??

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CBone8408 said:

Couldn't find a good one with the hat....thought this one was better!

But I will keep searching....

Ok...I like it


.......If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough !!!

Mr_pickle_max50

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ccso8462 said:

There are 2 different commissions available to security in my area: Armed and Unarmed, often referred to as Officer (armed) and Guard (unarmed) KCPD sets the standards for what you can carry, and qualifies the armed officers. I think if a Security officer carries a gun, he/she should be able to carry whatever else they can get training on, such as OC, baton, or taser. They are all less lethal tools.

This is a great concept and I for one would love to see it used as a national standard. I have worked with many good security guards that do a great job in their limited abilities. I have also worked with some really really crappy armed security personnel that I wouldn't want in the same STATE as me with a firearm.... Training and Standards are the key.

Stop and consider that not all that long ago (in the grand scheme of things) there wasn't any formal training for police officers especially in rural areas, it was here's your badge & gun go keep folks safe...

Times change and both Sworn Police Officers and Private Protection Agents need training, face it even with a six month long police academy, rookies are still in a "learning" mode after graduation...


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Ares_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Roll Misc View #3


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Florida_retriever_max160_max50

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Thats funny!

1080_max50

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KSP, whats the change for....someone to make a phone call?


.......If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough !!!

Ares_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

to call the police


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Florida_retriever_max160_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

You could give them a BB gun, tell them to fire three times if they need help!

Donutcop_max50

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Lulusgt said:

You could give them a BB gun, tell them to fire three times if they need help!

I think we can safely let them have a whistle!

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gvbpilot said:

Lulusgt said:

You could give them a BB gun, tell them to fire three times if they need help!

I think we can safely let them have a whistle!

Come on, not even an air soft gun??


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Florida_retriever_max160_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Fire three nerf bullets in the air!

Donutcop_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Squirt Gun!

Ares_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Ryan, "Ringing the Bell."


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Florida_retriever_max160_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

Is that "HospitalCop"?

Opinions_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

KSP.....oh hell, I can't even try to top that.....


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Lulusgt said:

Fire three nerf bullets in the air!

I can't even put out an eye with one of those!


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Call_lsp_max50

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

How about one of those hand held air horns, maybe if they are good they can get one of those to summon the real police.

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KSP494 said:

Ryan, "Ringing the Bell."

Now thats a HAT! I bet he has tinted windows too, to match his tinted goggles!


.......If you have a bad cough, take a large dose of laxatives, then you will be afraid to cough !!!

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