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Should we just do away with Security Guards? (SG'S GOT PUNKED)

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What do you guys think about just doing away with security guards all together? This would force businesses to hire sworn LEO's which would help out the LEO's with additional detail income, and also would give the business better security. We all know that they only hire security guards just to save the money, they would rather pay a $7.00/hr security guard then a $15.00+/hr LEO. If they just do away with private security companies it would work out a whole lot better for everyone, most security guards were just using the SG job to pay the bills until they get a real job anyway. What are your thoughts on this?


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In New Jersey you can't because of an old law regarding the hiring of off duty cops. They have to be working for the city so they are covered by the insurance. Thus, it would cost 4-5 times that of what a security guard makes.


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When I grow up I wanna be a Security Guard.


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Sure if they want to do away with Rent-A- Cop companies I wouldn’t care. Most of the people that I have run into are idiots anyways, but in our defense there are some good people in the security field, it’s just that they are few and far between.

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Sorry about the last comment, I see that it was deleted. I didn’t mean to offend but more or less I meant it in a humorous way.

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but don't you guys think that for the most part SG's are a waste of money anyway just because if something real actually happened they'd have to call us anyway. So basically you pay a SG to do what any of the other employees could be doing already which is dial 911


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I want to be the security company because they rape their employee's getting $30.00 per hour and paying them only $7.00. Nice racket. Otherwise, I agree with KSP, lets do away with em' and take over the business!

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KSP494 said:

but don't you guys think that for the most part SG's are a waste of money anyway just because if something real actually happened they'd have to call us anyway. So basically you pay a SG to do what any of the other employees could be doing already which is dial 911

You mean, why not pay for the right person who could finish the job???

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I think its a great idea. In Louisiana, companies pay security guard a small amount of money so they dont have to pay an off duty officer. Off Duty officers make 40 + bucks an hour. Off duty officers suppliment there incomes by working off duty gigs....So, I think that if we get rid of security guards....More off duty officers can work more off duty details and thus put more food on there table....I think Security guards are infact....robbing police officers of providing cool stuff for there families...SOOO...get rid of em'


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LtFrank said:

I want to be the security company because they rape their employee's getting $30.00 per hour and paying them only $7.00. Nice racket. Otherwise, I agree with KSP, lets do away with em' and take over the business!

Yes, you are exactly correct. One of the many reasons being a security guard is only a temp job for me.

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KSP494 said:

but don't you guys think that for the most part SG's are a waste of money anyway just because if something real actually happened they'd have to call us anyway. So basically you pay a SG to do what any of the other employees could be doing already which is dial 911

You mean, why not pay for the right person who could finish the job???

exactly.


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KSP494 said:

but don't you guys think that for the most part SG's are a waste of money anyway just because if something real actually happened they'd have to call us anyway. So basically you pay a SG to do what any of the other employees could be doing already which is dial 911

Its all about insurance premiums. If a business hires security, and then suffers a loss, they are covered for that loss by insurance as they took the necessary steps to protect their investment. Also, businesses receive great discounts on liability insurance ( schools, universities, shopping centers ) if they hire security. The insurance industry runs this country, this is another example how. The only companies building skyscrapers and new office buildings are lawyers, insurance companies and banks.....


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I have to come anyway I might as well already be there working extra duty.


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KSP494 said:

but don't you guys think that for the most part SG's are a waste of money anyway just because if something real actually happened they'd have to call us anyway. So basically you pay a SG to do what any of the other employees could be doing already which is dial 911

I know...if a REAL officer was there....he could simply use his department radio to call for assistance, if...assistance was really needed....or, the real officer could just handle the situation....and the rest of the on duty officers could keep patrolling, and thus provide a better service to the tax payers


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I wanna bee a sucurdy gard when I grough uP!! Dont make dem go away!!! I wanna be a fanchy shmanchy sacurdy gurd!!! mommy please!!!


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I just realized that I'm retired and I might have the qualifications to go into the security guard field! Where do I start?


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The only downside is the unemployed SG's but come on they have an exciting career waiting at McDonald's


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TBaby said:

I think its a great idea. In Louisiana, companies pay security guard a small amount of money so they dont have to pay an off duty officer. Off Duty officers make 40 + bucks an hour. Off duty officers suppliment there incomes by working off duty gigs....So, I think that if we get rid of security guards....More off duty officers can work more off duty details and thus put more food on there table....I think Security guards are infact....robbing police officers of providing cool stuff for there families...SOOO...get rid of em'

TBABY is right. Lets rid the world of SG's and takeover the whole thing! We could buy all kinds of neat s%^& we dont really need and make our lives so much better. Lets contact our local legislators and push a bill through!

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KSP494 said:

I have to come anyway I might as well already be there working extra duty.

Plus that way we don't have to decipher what they say happened. Sometimes that can be challenging...

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KSP494 said:

The only downside is the unemployed SG's but come on they have an exciting career waiting at McDonald's

They dont really work anyway...so, let them just stay home where they want to be anyway


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Reall SG's just cause crime if you think about it. Criminals see security guards and they know the business is an easy target. They stay away from the businesses with LEO's working details.


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LtFrank said:

TBaby said:

I think its a great idea. In Louisiana, companies pay security guard a small amount of money so they dont have to pay an off duty officer. Off Duty officers make 40 + bucks an hour. Off duty officers suppliment there incomes by working off duty gigs....So, I think that if we get rid of security guards....More off duty officers can work more off duty details and thus put more food on there table....I think Security guards are infact....robbing police officers of providing cool stuff for there families...SOOO...get rid of em'

TBABY is right. Lets rid the world of SG's and takeover the whole thing! We could buy all kinds of neat s%^& we dont really need and make our lives so much better. Lets contact our local legislators and push a bill through!

We could just do a little surveillance. I'm sure they're doing something we can arrest them for..

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If they are unemployed, it plays right into our game plan. See, they will turn to crime thus giving us Real Officers job security (pun intended) so we could like, double dip by arresting them and also taking their jobs at the same time! We should of thought of this sooner!!!

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Problem is, besides the cost, as stated, the LEO would be, for the most part, idle most of the time as compared to the cop in the street. The crooks now will know who they are dealing with; thus, curtailing their ilegal activities. It could be done in a rortational system to the detriment of some, or on a voluntary basis. Just so it wouldn't interfere with promotions..

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It also solves the whining problem. "why can't I have a tazer, why can't I have a gun, we do the same thing you guys do."


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I heard they recruit from the Jerry Lewis telethon, not the callers but the afflicted!

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That's just cold. Some of them consider themselves professionals and are proud of the work they do. Sometimes a person does what they can for whatever limiting factor they may face. Whether it's part time or full time. I was raised that I would give 100% for whatever job I had. Many of them were as well. I just think it's wrong to denigrate a person's work when it's legal, regardless of what they do.

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I think it would be worth the extra hours and lack of sleep just to NOT HEAR the whining as mentioned before.

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gvbpilot said:

KSP494 said:

I have to come anyway I might as well already be there working extra duty.

Plus that way we don't have to decipher what they say happened. Sometimes that can be challenging...

AND… we wont have to listen to the BS stories about some crime they witnessed last week…such as a kid they saw without a helmet and riding a bike


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