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Black Talon ammo
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Posted 2 months ago I am looking for a box or two of the old Winchester Black Talon ammo that was pulled off the shelf awhile ago. If you have some you would not mind parting with please email me at cpd217@yahoo.com. I am looking for .40 cal. |
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| Posted 2 months ago cpd217 says ...
Used to have some 9MM until it was banned by the department. "Don't tell people how to do things, tell them what to do and let them surprise you with their results." - George S. Patton |
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| Posted 2 months ago Winchester Westren Law Enforcement ammo is basically the same, I think it is the same with a new name. |
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| Posted 2 months ago Winchester Ranger SXT, Ranger Talon or whatever the Ranger series calls itself now is pretty much the same projectile. I read an article not long ago that the latest and greatest Ranger/Talon projectiles are better than the first generation Balck Talons. If the actual Black Talons are used on a person I could see an attorney make a big stink about it in court. You have the rest of your life to solve the problem, how long your life lasts depends on how well you do it - Clint Smith |
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| Posted 2 months ago Get the Winchester SXT Ammo. It's the Same eXact Thing You Can Be As Tough As Nails and Still Be A Gentleman |
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| Posted 2 months ago rickjudy says ...
Yep, that's the stuff. Carry it in my off duty Glock 27. Go out today and preach the gospel, and if you must, use words. St. Francis of Assisi |
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| Posted 2 months ago I have some black talons, but the black talons had separation issues, I witnessed first hand the jacket separate from the core of the round that was used in an OIS, stick with Ranger SXT, black talons has a bad history all the way around. |
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| Posted 2 months ago Ranger SXT is the new version of the black Talon. It was taken off the shelf for reputation and problems as Odin stated. t never really went away it just was marketed under a few differnt names and a few design changes. I think the new design has a partition in the core to keep it from seperating from the jacket and a more aggresive serration on the outer edge of the hollow point, I think thats right. Odin did you wittness this when you capped a troll? Still need protection? |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Winchester Ranger SXT-same bullet(albeit the color), same performance. Believe it or not the color of the "black" talon caused the race card to be thrown in several cases. Go with the new stuff. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Black Talon was discontinued quite a while back. It's a good collector's item It has already been mentioned. Winchester SXT (stands for Supreme Expansion Technology) or Federal HST are today's replacement for the old Black Talon. Why? There is more technology built into the SXT and HST that is absent in the BT. It is a far more reliable round with regards to trauma components and bullet technology. I recently spent some time discussing these aspects with a top ballistics criminalist who's sole purpose in life is to research OIS's, ballistic performance and post shooting assessments. Interesting comment the criminalist offered. He said some doctors were actually getting cut from the petalled edges of the expanded BT round. I handled an expended round and can verifiy that each petal was virtually razor sharp, thus providing immense collateral damage. The newest rounds still maintain this edgey damage potential. "When dark evil strides across the land, and even noble hearts shrink in fear, there are always Warriors of pure spirit who take up the sword and stand their ground." Blackwater Worldwide "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and he is Best who is trained in the severest school." Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War |
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| Posted about 1 month ago DoubleTap1 says ...
Only difference is the copper jacket. GOOD STUFF! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I still see black talons at gun shows in Virginia. I'm sure you can find it in your area. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago rickjudy says ...
Perhaps he wants the old box markings. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago cpd217 says ...
Pulled off the shelves in 2000. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago mshort says ...
Yep, the hollow point was star shaped, thus the Starpoint moniker. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago rickjudy says ...
DITTO............SAME THING...maybe even a bit better in regards to what ODIN was referring to. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I am very familiar with the BT and new sxt's, to include version 2 of the sxt. I have no intention of using the black talon in any of my guns. I have heard that the black coating on the old BT was a lubricant of some sort so that the bullets wouldn't wear out the barrel. Great postings and info. Thanks. By the way, does anyone have a law enforcement supplier that I can get some of the version 2 Ranger T-Series ammo from? I have only one and he is waiting for .40 S&W T-Series. The website is M.A.H. He carries a lot of it in different calibers. So if your looking, check him out. Oh, and just incase your wondering what a box of .45 cal Black Talon is going for, Mike at M.A.H. is selling a box for $85.00.
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| Posted about 1 month ago I have some black talons in my collection of rounds. I carry ranger xp's off duty in my glock 22 40 cal. Its the same exact round. Someone in my dept reloads them and I buy them from him. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I remember hearing guys back in Kansas talking about BT's back in the day. All they could tell me was that the rounds were pure devestation to the shootee. Could somebody tell me what specifically make them and the newer rounds special? Is it the sharp edges after expansion? I'm a noob on this subject, lol.
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| Posted 19 days ago Bass Pro Shop had a large display of ranger sxt with something new about them teflon coated and all |
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| Posted 19 days ago cpd217 says ...
go to www.gunbroker.com under the ammunition section and search it |
