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HR 218 Apply To Corrections?

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Posted 3 months ago

 

HR 218, The Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act


 


Does HR 218 apply to Corrections Officers?

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Yes and No. It does apply to some who are in reality sworm Law Enforcement Officers who have the power of arrest anywhere within their jurisdiction and not just inside the jail/prison. I have also been told that in a couple of States even prison guards are classified LEO's. To be on the safe side you should carry a CCW from your State until they get this settled. There is an amendment that they are attempting to add to this Bill that would include CO's

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Rated 0 | Posted 3 months ago

 

 In PA , Corrections are not considered LEO's and are not 218 covered. 

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This is not 100% until I find it in the rubble that has grown on my desk.  HR218 did not include CO's unless you went to the FULL  P.O.S.T Academy for peace officer and you were classified under that.  It did not include CO's that went to CO' training if at all.  But this new bill coming up does in fact include CO's if you had the required training and actually worked as one, not just trained as one.Soo, there still is a bit of ambiguity here, maybe in 20-30 years there will be no, "but, what if''s" and there will be no stone unturned.


 


Right now to classify, you'd had to have at least 15 good years in (which is being downsized to 10), honorary separation from a department  combination of departments is acceptable, but has to be verified or: permantly injured in the line of duty, and have a permanent and stationary court  order to to verify your permanent injury (no time limit on this one).  We went over this not to long ago, check back into the topics under: , "What about HR   218..........?


Each state , each department for that matter is different even though the state statutes legally cannot supercede a Federal law, so you can see how hot a topic this still is.


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Hey Barb,


Do you qualify BTW? I noticed that you served with the SFSO as a Court Bailiff but then went back to private security afterwards. Not hammering you, just curious.

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Rated 0 | Posted 3 months ago

 

In NYC CO's ARE considered Law Enforcement as we currently have attained Police Officer status AND are fully sworn to carry and effect arrests....also,a carefulr eading of this act states that those who are...( well,its along one but yes,we are authorized...) the question is...why would you? Vacation is va cqation...leave it home.

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Rated 0 | Posted 3 months ago

 

Robocop33-


Actually, Court Bailiff is the only detail I didn't do in the SFSO. Thank for your interest.  Among other details, I was the Asst. to the first Jail Ombudsman in the country.  Asst. to the Chief in the Civil Division. Worked in all four jails - max/min.  First woman to be detailed on the men's side.  Worked the hospital, transporting,women's side, pysch ward, some field work. recruitment, PR, you name it, I did it, except baliff.  And was just with SFSO.  Other fun details with other departments and agencies.


Am I qualified, uh huh.  Went through the P.O.S.T, California, and as you know, that really is the basics.  I used to shoot competively. Had to leave SO because of a permanent injury: a fire rescue.  Is there anything else you wish to know.


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Rated 0 | Posted 3 months ago

 

If you are an employed by a goverment agency, are sworn to make arrests, etc., and are authorized to carry a weapon by that agency, you are covered. So, if you are a goverment CO, you are authorized to carry a weapon, and have powers of arrest (regardless of jurisdiction limitations) you are covered. Read HR 218, they left no room for arguement, it is cut and dry.

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Rated 0 | Posted 2 months ago

 

If your a state corrections officer in any one of these states you have peace officer powers, and are covered under HR218. If your a peace officer you should be qualifying at least once a year with a firearm as part of your job requirement. It's not complicated people. LOL. Just do your research, and don't believe what these haters who are jelous of your job tell you. Research people. Please read HR218, and know your job description.


 


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Rated 0 | Posted 11 days ago

 

Hey, you left out the Commonwealth of Virginia.  We qualify with our firearms yearly,  We are a Goverment Agency,  We are allowed to carry a firearm and we Supervise inmates and are allowed to arrest in the prison, We also have a Correctional Officer Academy not only OJT.   H.R 218 never stated the power to arrest on the street.  Even local Police Officers have a jurisdiction.  I believe we all have the power to arrest if someone commits a felony act in your view.  Most Virginia Correctional Officers that want to carry in all 50 states become Virginia Special Conservators of the Peace which are equal to a Constable and is a Certifide Law Enforcement Officer with 5 days of training and elected to serve by the court in the county which he or she lives.  This will definately cover anyone under H.R 218 Correctional Officer or not.

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Rated 0 | Posted 11 days ago

 

I think it would be dependent on the state and what their COs are classified as. Here COs can not carry under HR 218 and rightfully so.


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Rated 0 | Posted 11 days ago

 

KeystoneKop says ...



 In PA , Corrections are not considered LEO's and are not 218 covered. 



KeystoneKop provided your answer thank you.


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Rated 0 | Posted 11 days ago

 

218 DOES NOT apply to CO's in Virginia......


 I have been a COP in VA for 23 years and know that it does not apply..


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