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Posted 6 months ago Okay so I had a situation this past weekend involving a 6 month old pit bull, a police officer and a shot gun! I was out with a friend of mine who has two dogs of her own. Her neighbor has a 6 month old pitbull that the entire neighbor hood adores. A few weeks ago my friends dog Roxy got loose and was wondering the neighbor hood. she got a warning from the police to make sure her dog is kept inside and not wondering the streets. Anyways this Sunday We pulled up to her house to find one of the crackwhores in her fuzzy pink robe sitting in her car terrified because shelton (pitbull pup) got out of the house and ran up to her to play. so she called the cops and this officer shows up with his baton out as he is getting out of his squad car, I understand this only becuase I know pitbulls are known for their aggressive behavior and I doubt he knew the age of the puppy. But once he relalized that it was a puppy things should have simmered down dramatically. Instead he went o his car and grabbed a freaking shot gun..... He knew this was only a puppy. Shelton was running around the street chasing a leaf of all things. He was being a puppy. my friend and I got out of the truck and just stood in the front yard. Steph (my friend) starting calling shelton over to her so the officer would calm down. instead he started yelling at both of us asking if he was our dog and that we better both have our id's out because he willl need to see them. Well with all the comotion Shelton thought the officer was talking to him so he starting running over to the officer (and you all know what kind of running I am talking about.. the little playful gallop they do when they are so excited.) The officer pulled up his shot gun and pointed it at the Sheltons head and started screaming at me and steph to get the dog or it will be put down. At this point her neightbor heres the comotion and runs out of the house and relaizes that this Police officer has a shotgun pointed at his puppys head. He starts yelling "its my dog please its my dog! " The police officer finally lowers his gun and allows the dogs owner to grab him and secure him with a leash. After the ordeal we all were left a little tramatized and her neighbor was left with a hyper pup and a $500 ticket. Is this how things like this are normally handled? Drama... lets leave it in the High schools. |
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| Posted 6 months ago During Hurricane Rita, we were deployed down to Port Arthur and Beaumont. After about the third day, the dogs started running in packs. By the 4th day, some of the dop packs would start to attack officers. There were a lot of Pitts in these packs. Once the dogs would start showing aggression and would approach, they would be shot. That is a very drastic situation fueled by starvation and fear. On situation u described, hard to judge. How big is the 6 mo. old puppy. Better to be sure and careful, then de-escalate than not be prepared and suffer. |
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| Posted 6 months ago So...no connection between the "crack whore" sitting in a car in the driveway and a pit bull running around? It is nice that the entire neighborhood adores the puppy. However, the police officer did not know the temperment of the dog - he must have a lot of experience not to have pulled the trigger. "Officer, why did you shoot my boy, "everyone" knew that his play gun was not loaded'? |
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| Posted 6 months ago UUMMMM, Whats the scoop on being that close to a crack whore? Neighborhoods where crack whores and pitbulls run loose are typically a little more dangerus, areas like that don't usually have responsible K-9 owners. If the officer didn't know you and your friend, or the pittbull then he did the right thing by taking a very cautious approach to all of you, but something I don't understand is, how do dogs just escape owners homes like that? I have owned dogs, big aggressive dogs most of my life and they have never just gotten out. Your post suggest that the officer should have known the dog wasn't aggressive and that everything was just dandy, but you talk about a crack whore sitting in a car, and the fact that your friend has been warned about the dog already. Tell your friend to move away from the crack whores, keep his pet confined as was warned, and he won't meet any more cautios police officers. |
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| Posted 5 months ago Don't want to lecture, but part of being a pit owner...THE BIGGEST PART ...is being responsible. I own three pits currently and I know where every one of them is at all times. I understand a mother knowing when her child is up to no good because the house is too quiet. When I hear "quiet" for more than about 5 seconds, I go looking for them. Pitbulls are like three dogs apiece. They are smart; they are mischievous; they are energetic; and they can be aggressive. As an owner of pits you are not only responsible for the welfare of your dog(s) but you are also responsible for the welfare of other people's dogs and residents in the community. Looking at the larger picture, you are also DIRECTLY responsible for what the media and others see and say about pitbulls. Do not do the entire breed an injustice for generations to come just because of sheer indifference (letting the dog somehow get out) or laziness. If you get a pit, be proactive about being on top of things AT ALL TIMES. Otherwise, do everyione a favor and give it to someone responsible and get a Pug or a Shih Tzu. Troll...the other white meat. It's "what's for dinner". FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT |
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| Posted 5 months ago Speaking from experience, I have been bitten on the job by what neighbors and owners describe a friendly fun loving animal who wouldn't harm a soul. I am now always aware and respectful of a dogs teritory and treat each dog I encounter, especially large dogs with the respect they deserve. Dogs are not entirley unlike humans in that they don't alway broadcast their true intentions until they strike. The dog that bit me was one moment content to lay in the dirt and lick it's nether reagions, the very next it has sunk it teeth deep into my left knee. It is also my experience that dogs are alot smarter than most people will give them credit for. As that loveable friendly creature had nashed down on me I began to draw my handgun. The dog saw this and I observed the recognition in his eye. He immediately released and returned to the sitting, loveable animal that was content to lick his parts and look adorable. Since then it has been my experiance that the red laser dot from a X26 Taser is most effective at keepng aggressive dogs at bay. I firmly believe that dogs have an instinctive knowledge of handguns and the danger they represent. I don't see anything in your descritption of how the Officer reacted that I would not have done if I had been placed in the same situation. Wether its the type of neighborhood that has a crack whore or it an upscale neighborhood, If a large dog begins loping toward me I will take every precaution, especially If I have been recently dispatched to an aggressive animal call. The shotgun may have been a little overkill, but like BRAD said, it is better to de-escilate than have to get a tetnis shot and stitches. I myself own three dogs. My Cocker Spaniels are cute and fuzy and adorable but I realize more than a pitbull owner that my dogs are ranked number 4 on the nations list of most attacks by dogs. I Know where my dogs are at all times and go to great lengths to make sure they are seperated from nieghbors and passer-bys just in case. The unfortunate thing about owning a cute dog is that parents don't think twice about allowing their children or themselves to approach the strange cute doggy. If it was a pitbull they would shield their children but they encourage their rug rats to stick their hands through my fence and pet my cute little doggies. Damn people can be infuriating sometimes. I know this was a little off topic but I needed to rant. Sorry........ Sgt. Gilpin |
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| Posted 5 months ago I have a full-blood American Pit Bull. She is about 3 1/2 years old. At 7 months, she weighed about 25 pounds. She now weighs 70 pounds. She is a bit on the small side, but is still exceptionally strong. She is very smart and has figured more ways out of my yard than I care to think about. She has learned how to open the patio door to come inside. Now if I could just teach her to shut the door behind her... Like the other pit owner, if she's outside and I don't hear anything for a minute or so, I go check. She has dug under the gate, compacted her body and pushed through impossibly small openings, etc. We finally had to electrify the fence to keep her from trying to get out . The only thing she hasn't done is figure out how to jump over the fence (thankfully, as it's only a 4' chain-length). She is a very friendly dog and only wants to play. She gets very excited and her hind parts wiggle like they are completely disjointed from the front parts. She is submissive, as she was raised with a much older Rottweiler-Australian Shepherd mix, who is the dominant dog. The pit thinks everyone is her friend and wants to do nothing other than play with her. She will duck her head almost to the ground in a submissive gesture to try and convince people to pet her. Their biggest danger with her is from her tail. That thing is like a little whip! I have never seen her act in an aggressive manner, except for one time when my husband reached down to try and take a bone away from her. She growled at him, but did nothing more. However, I can reach down and take kibble completely out of her mouth and she doesn't react at all. Pits are great dogs. They are protective, fun, energetic, and fiercely loyal. They are mischievious clowns and are absolutely funny to watch when they are at play. They also love to head butt, crawl under your legs, climb on the back of sofas, and press their backs up against walls, furniture, etc. I think they like the feel of the pressure against them. My pit finds the head butting to be comforting and calming. I let her head butt my chest and I lay my head on top of hers, then rub her back and abdomen. it is good bonding for us and continues my place as the dominant being in the home. Any dog can be raised to be loving and well-tempered, just as any dog can raised to be mean and dangerous. Of course, if dogs are allowed to run wild, they also can be dangerous - just like any other feral animal. I admit that I did not want a pit, as I had bought into the media hype surrounding them. My husband convinced me otherwise and I am very glad he did. |
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| Posted 4 months ago i had a similar thing happen to me. my amstaff climbed the fence and went to play with some kids down the road that were outside. well their crazy mother called the police and said that there was a pitbull in her yard chasing her kids and trying to attack them. next thing i know animal control is in my driveway threatening to shoot my dog because "shes in heat" after i tried to explain to the ignorant animal control woman that she wasnt because my dog has false pregancies that makes her whelp up and look like she is in heat i realized i wasnt makeing any progress and jsut decied to explain to her that if she shot my dog we were going to have a MAJOR problem and that woman down the road was just crazy anyway. anyway a few days later when i was walking my dog the same kids that were supposibly so terrified of her a few days earlier stopped me and asked if they could pet and play with her. which i thought was odd since if i was almost attacked by a dog a few days earlier i dont think i would be trying to play with it.... but anyway my dog has gotten out once since then and went to the same yard and the woman locked her kids in the house and called the police again. luckly this time the officer didint discriminate against my dog because shes a amstaff and he saw that she is friendly so he just put her in his car and took her back to my house and put her in the fence. he later told me he had a bit of a problem getting her out of the car lol. but luckly there are a few people in this world that know bullie breeds are sweet and loving dogs that just want to play. |
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| Posted 4 months ago I've had to respond to 2 cases of "ravage ' pitbulls terrorizing the base. The first call I shoed up and had 3 of my younger folks standing in the back of their truck because they were scared senseless. I look over the fence and their are 3 HUGE pitbull puppies. I watched for a minute and noticed they were doing nothing but playing so I went back to my patrol and got out the box of dog treats. Guess who had 3 new best friends? Anyway, bring them back to the station, put em in kennels and call the owner. Guy shows up and says the oldest is 5 months old and he was the runt at 50lbs. Give him back his dogs, issue him is notice and everyone is happy. The second one I get called to is the compete opposite. 0200 get a call of a coyote eating this ladies dog. Happens once in a blue moon we get a coyote in housing but this was a first I've had one attack. Show up and it turns out it's a pitbull with the reamins of some little furry thing in it s mouth. Had I been authorized, that dog would have been put down on the spot. When it realized I was behind it I can say I was scared I was about to get mauled. I haul back to the car and get our catch pole and I don't know how but I got this thing hooked up. The worst part was I had to try and get this thing in a partners car with a cage. Finally get it in and down to the kennels and locked up. Now since I was on the base then, we act as animal control. So we keep this thjing for 3 daysno one claims it then we have to transport it to the local animal shelter where it got put down after a week. I've seen a variety of dogs do different things and it is always due to how they are raised and treated. |
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| Posted 3 months ago a lot of people have a stereotype about pitbulls. but its like any other dog....how you raise them and treat them. puppy or not, a dog can be mean. the officer may have had a bad experience with a dog before and was looking out for himself. i cant take a side on this one but i know if anyone did that to my pit i would be furious. |
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| Posted 3 months ago bamj438 says ...
Again - YOU are in control of what happens to your dog. Bella is a good looking little pittie and it would be a shame to have something happen to such a sweetie. YOU need to know where she is at all times, YOU need to make sure she is always leashed when outside the house or yard. YOU need to make sure that your children are not allowed to walk her without an adult nearby. YOU need to take an aggressive role in how people perceive all pitbulls based upon the first impression they have of your dog. YOU need to educate people that hve misconceptions about the breed and remember, no matter what you tell them about your dog, his or her behavior and how well they mind your commands will speak volumes over anything you say. Not singling you out here, Brooke...this is said for EVERY pitbull or bully breed owner out there. Troll...the other white meat. It's "what's for dinner". FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT |
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| Posted 3 months ago Pits have a reputation, granted. Agreed that the way a dog is raised has a lot to do with how they behave. It's also true, Pits are the favored dog by drug houses and thugs. While it may be perception, it's the reality when faced with one. Pits are also high on the list of dogs that cause serious injury and death. Bully breeds of dogs lead that catagory. While not all Bully breeds are Pits, many people can't tell them apart. That puts the liability on the owner of the dog. The owner can either add to that perception, by being irresponsible in keeping the dog under control. The owner can add to that perception by not controlling the dog. When lot of people talk about being bitten by a dog, their reference is a bruise, maybe a few deep scratches or a couple of small punctures. To see what a dog can really do frightens a lot of people. I've worked with dogs for nearly 45 years, I've personally had my right arm broken in two places that required 3 surgeries and quite a bit of rehab. If I pull up to a house and a dog of any size, let alone a pittie, makes an aggressive move towards me, it's toast. Owners of such dogs need to understand that if they don't do something, the government will. There are already municipalities that have enacted breed specific legislation because of the problem. I'm opposed to the BSL, however, those that want to own dog like that need to start acting responsible.
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