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I didn't know where to post this so forgive me if it is in the wrong place. I am about to turn 21, so I will be eligible to carry concealed in my state. I am searching for a good CCW,I have been saving up money for the license and classes as well as for the firearm. Currently, I like the H&K P2000SK in .40 calibar, does anyone have any experiance with this weapon or one similar? Or would you suggest something else? I am also looking into getting my mom a small .38 to keep in her purse or car. I am going to help her get her CCWP as well, any recomandations for a good weapon for her? She is diabled with a bum leg so I worry she is an easy target for a mugger.


I forgot to add the firearm is actually the H&K P2000SK

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i carry the springfield armory xd subcompact for concealed carry .....as far as for your mom i have a buddy that carries a kel-tec P-3AT as a secondary weapon while on duty

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When you carry the XD is it noticable? Also I think I am going to go with an Inside Waistband Holster. Is that a wise choice?

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Nart for your Mom I would recommend a S7W lady smith in a .38 cal or try a S7W model 629 in a 9mm. both of these weapons are for a smaller hand.  As for yourself and not having much experience the 40 would be nice but I would suggest you try a 9 or 10 mm.

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It's a different world indeed, at 21 knowing how to fight hand to hand was the only thing I wanted and needed, nowadays, kids can't scrap so, get a gun thinking thats tough, unless you live in Beirut or Compton what do you need a gun for? second what training are you prepared to get before carrying death around in the form of a gun? Like most cops I have been asked this question many times, and if all the training your going to get is minimal, then get a snub 38 lightweight, the failure drills are a lot easier to remember in case(God help us) you ever pull it to use.

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Knight Shooting range here offers classes on personal protection and how to poperly use the firearm. And, I plan to go to the range as much as possible. I don't want to carry it to feel like a badass I just want to have it if I need it, I am able to defeand myself hand to hand. And, if it were up to me I would only need that. Unfortunately, the world we live in today negates my personal wishes and yours.

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I'm with Odin on this one for sure. Civilians rarely recieve the training needed to use a firearm offensively, and really have no business using it as such. Go with a Smith Airweight TI or similar. Pleanty of firepower in a small package, but not enough for you to get yourself into major trouble.


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I am a civilian who volunteers with the sheriff's dept and I also have many LEO's friends and family and I also agree with them. Think about why you want a weapon and especially why you want to carry it.  When I carry, I now have a Sphinx .380m. It's small, lightweight and easy to conceal. One thing I have learned from all the yrs of hanging out with these guys/gals is this, "don't own or carry one if your not prepared to use it. Take several classes, not just the basic class to get your permit. If you have a LEO friend ask for help with offensive/defensive tactics. Know your weapon, inside and out. Before you or your mom purchase's a weapon try out several different ones at the range.  Good luck and please make sure you are buying one for the right reasons.

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Here's my one deep thought of the day....


"The gun is heavy"


 


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When you carry the XD is it noticable? Also I think I am going to go with an Inside Waistband Holster. Is that a wise choice?



it depends on what kind of clothes you wear i wear loose fittig clothes and an ankel holster and never have any problems with it

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I didn't know where to post this so forgive me if it is in the wrong place. I am about to turn 21, so I will be eligible to carry concealed in my state. I am searching for a good CCW,I have been saving up money for the license and classes as well as for the firearm. Currently, I like the H&K P2000SK in .40 calibar, does anyone have any experiance with this weapon or one similar? Or would you suggest something else? I am also looking into getting my mom a small .38 to keep in her purse or car. I am going to help her get her CCWP as well, any recomandations for a good weapon for her? She is diabled with a bum leg so I worry she is an easy target for a mugger.


I forgot to add the firearm is actually the H&K P2000SK



Nart,


I will give you the same advice that I give to anyone considering the purchase of a firearm, especially for personal protection.  There are waay too many "EXPERTS" out there that will tell to carry XYZ pistol in XYZ caliber because it's the best.  Find a reputable shooting range that rents out handguns. Try several different firearms and calibers to see what works best for YOU!  If you are gonna plunk down a couple hundred bucks it should be for something that you are comfortable with, otherwise you will wind up NOT carrying it. A concealed & loaded .22 pistol on your person will do you more good than the .88 MAGNUM left at home because it's too big or heavy. The same goes for your mother.


Additionally, you need to give a great deal of thought on WHY you want to carry and what OPTIONS you have to deal with violence. Having a gun doesn't protect you any more than having a calculator makes you an accountant.  Training and education is the key here.  Best of luck to ya.


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nart12 says ...



I didn't know where to post this so forgive me if it is in the wrong place. I am about to turn 21, so I will be eligible to carry concealed in my state. I am searching for a good CCW,I have been saving up money for the license and classes as well as for the firearm. Currently, I like the H&K P2000SK in .40 calibar, does anyone have any experiance with this weapon or one similar? Or would you suggest something else? I am also looking into getting my mom a small .38 to keep in her purse or car. I am going to help her get her CCWP as well, any recomandations for a good weapon for her? She is diabled with a bum leg so I worry she is an easy target for a mugger.


I forgot to add the firearm is actually the H&K P2000SK



Nart,


I will give you the same advice that I give to anyone considering the purchase of a firearm, especially for personal protection.  There are waay too many "EXPERTS" out there that will tell to carry XYZ pistol in XYZ caliber because it's the best.  Find a reputable shooting range that rents out handguns. Try several different firearms and calibers to see what works best for YOU!  If you are gonna plunk down a couple hundred bucks it should be for something that you are comfortable with, otherwise you will wind up NOT carrying it. A concealed & loaded .22 pistol on your person will do you more good than the .88 MAGNUM left at home because it's too big or heavy. The same goes for your mother.


Additionally, you need to give a great deal of thought on WHY you want to carry and what OPTIONS you have to deal with violence. Having a gun doesn't protect you any more than having a calculator makes you an accountant.  Training and education is the key here.  Best of luck to ya.



Well said.


I believe all qualified [and TRAINED] civilians should carry, but then again I'm an NRA life member gun nut. A smaller caliber gun for your mother [and  yourself, if your not experienced with em] would be best.


And as everyone else here said: Lots and LOTS of training. If you carry, carry it right. The more practice and training you have, the better.


Remember that all it takes is one bad decision with that gun to ruin your life and someone elses!


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I'm personally not a fan but a Keltek is very concealable not matter your clothing. I persnally carry a Glock Subcompact PG 30 .45 Cal.

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nart12 says ...



I didn't know where to post this so forgive me if it is in the wrong place. I am about to turn 21, so I will be eligible to carry concealed in my state. I am searching for a good CCW,I have been saving up money for the license and classes as well as for the firearm. Currently, I like the H&K P2000SK in .40 calibar, does anyone have any experiance with this weapon or one similar? Or would you suggest something else? I am also looking into getting my mom a small .38 to keep in her purse or car. I am going to help her get her CCWP as well, any recomandations for a good weapon for her? She is diabled with a bum leg so I worry she is an easy target for a mugger.


I forgot to add the firearm is actually the H&K P2000SK



Nart,


I will give you the same advice that I give to anyone considering the purchase of a firearm, especially for personal protection.  There are waay too many "EXPERTS" out there that will tell to carry XYZ pistol in XYZ caliber because it's the best.  Find a reputable shooting range that rents out handguns. Try several different firearms and calibers to see what works best for YOU!  If you are gonna plunk down a couple hundred bucks it should be for something that you are comfortable with, otherwise you will wind up NOT carrying it. A concealed & loaded .22 pistol on your person will do you more good than the .88 MAGNUM left at home because it's too big or heavy. The same goes for your mother.


Additionally, you need to give a great deal of thought on WHY you want to carry and what OPTIONS you have to deal with violence. Having a gun doesn't protect you any more than having a calculator makes you an accountant.  Training and education is the key here.  Best of luck to ya.



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Thanks for all the advice. Like I said earlier I am saving for classes. I plan on attending as many as I can possbly afford.  I have thought long andf hard about why I want a firearm, and its because I want to protect myself and my family.  I have been reading up on the statues that pretain to concealed carry, so I know whee I can and can't carry. Again, thanks for the all the responses.

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Bubba, look online for some one or a business that does pistol training courses, or self defense courses... Get some training, PLEASE! If you ever have to pull the trigger and put someone down. YOU WILL GO TO TRIAL... well 7 times outa 10 these days you will, but you need to be able to defend yourself legally as well as physically. You should be able to know what do to during the situation as well as defend yourself on the stand and explain why you did what you did, as well as show that you are capible of making that decision.


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S&W 642


For both of you.  Revolvers are much easier to use when SHF.  Not to get in too deep about fine motor skills and all that, but when the pucker factor goes up your brain shuts down.  It's alot easier to remember to pull the trigger 5 times than clear a malfuntion with an auto.  When you've had enough training to feel comfortable with an auto get one.  Have a buddy load your mags for you with empty brass mixed in with live rounds.  If your weapon fails to fire and the first thing you do is look at it, you ain't ready.


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Thanks , and because of the responses I received I have been looking into different classes that I didn't know would be useful at first. It's just a matter of putting the money in the bank and saving it from here on out. thanks again for all of you who took time to answear.

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Bubba, look online for some one or a business that does pistol training courses, or self defense courses... Get some training, PLEASE! If you ever have to pull the trigger and put someone down. YOU WILL GO TO TRIAL... well 7 times outa 10 these days you will, but you need to be able to defend yourself legally as well as physically. You should be able to know what do to during the situation as well as defend yourself on the stand and explain why you did what you did, as well as show that you are capible of making that decision.



Minus the trial...pistol training is always a great idea; after all you wouldn't want you or your mother shooting some innocent person on accident would you?


Go out, shoot, practice and train...then you're ready to carry.


I personally don't like the H&K pistols...they are too pricey and have too many moving parts...I also hate their mag releases, but those are all my personal preferances.


Want to know the best way to pick out a gun?

   *Choose your price range (what your budget is)

   *Pick out a calliber (sounds like you like the .40)

   *Start browsing and actually see how a gun feels in your hand- even dry fire it (ask permission first though). Look it over from the safety (if it has one) to the sights, after all, this gun may save your life one day.

   *If you can, test it out (some shops allow you to rent or "try before you buy")


I love my glocks for CCW....my Glock 27 (.40 subcompact) is ideal for almost any situations. However, not in your price range? Want a manual safety? Try a Taurus Millenium Pro (lovely little guns for only $350).


Revolvers are perfect, but they're limited on their callibers and capacity (for the most part). They only have one basic feature though that makes things simple...if you pull the trigger it will fire- if it didn't, then just pull the trigger again. Simple is veeery goooood in stressfull situations. People want to just point and shoot when they need to, safeties get in the way if you don't practice a lot with them (about 5,000 times).


I actually was going to buy a little .38 SPC S&W revolver for CCW...but when I tested it out the cylinder broke after the first shot and the gun wouldn't fire without needing a smith to repair it...to me, that's not a good thing. I can fix almost every Semi-auto failure when I need to; therefore, I'm comfortable with semi-autos. Now, am I saying Smith and Wesson is a crappy company? HELL NO! I owned a S&W Model 65 for years and loved it...in fact my next gun is probably going to be a S&W Model 629.


 


But back on topic...I want to back up for a minute and say that my personal opinion of H&K is just that....my personal opinion. H&K makes great guns and I have yet to see one fail while out on the range, and trust me- even at my young age I've seen a LOT of things happen to guns on ranges.


 So- pick what suits you best and go shoot some ammo!


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Nart I heard some advice a long time ago about what weapon to use for what job ie home defense, Concealed carry etc. One that you shoot well and know how it works, and that you feel comfortable with on the range and know cold. I also agree with what Odin said about hand to hand but the world has changed for sure. CATM has good advice also, know the law for self defense.


 


I have both a Springfield XD40 and S&W Model 36 .38 cal. that I will carry concealed when I get my permit. The AF gives us the Beretta 92 9mm which I don't have to carry concealed thank God.


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I have both a Springfield XD40 and S&W Model 36 .38 cal. that I will carry concealed when I get my permit. The AF gives us the Beretta 92 9mm which I don't have to carry concealed thank God.



Just think, when you run out of bullets for the 92FS you can use it as a club!


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After doing some more research I have been looking into a firearm with an external safety. I have read up on the differences between DA/SA and SAO. I also came across the DAK trigger fire system by SIG. This seems to me like a logical choice since the trigger pull isn't to heavy but not as light as a SAO. Any one have any advice?

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After doing some more research I have been looking into a firearm with an external safety. I have read up on the differences between DA/SA and SAO. I also came across the DAK trigger fire system by SIG. This seems to me like a logical choice since the trigger pull isn't to heavy but not as light as a SAO. Any one have any advice?



They're a good choice. Sigs are good firearms, overall. However, I'm just wondering, what are your concerns with a SAO pistol?


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I agree with most people on here. Think about why you need that gun. I have my CCWL I got it when I was 21 I think, and I rarely ever carry , I'm also on as a reserve officer and on the SRT team I'm only 23. I think everyone needs more training so any classes that you can attend will help . Most 21 yr olds want a gun to let other people know they have it or show off with it. I got mine cause I was in private security always oncall and never knew when I would be paged out. I also transported large amounts of cash for banks so the need for a firearm was a must. I see where your in loss prevention, There is little too No place for a weapon in loss prevention. I also worked for wal mart as loss prevention and know that there is no need for a firearm.  Unless you live in a place with High crime or a violent place you dont need one. Even if you think you wont tell people your carrying you will. I just dont think taking a class on CCW will work. I've been to lots of classes since I started 3 years ago and still rarely carry. I'm not trying to say your  irresponsible or not old enough. just take a bigger look at it.  If you still want one get a baby glock they rock!

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Well from what I have read SAO is a lighter trigger. Now, if I ever had to defeand myself I think the longer trigger pull will force me to think about what I am about to do. I don't want to carry one to look cool, or to feel like a bad mofo. Nor do I want to take another life, but if it was a situation where my life or another persons life was in danger then I will have to do what needs to be done to stop the threat.


I admit the CCW classes aren't going to be enough training to deal with a real threat. But, I am licensed security and they do offer more advanced classes for people in the security field with firearms which I will take advantage of.  And, I know I am not a LEO nor do I think Security and LEO's have the same job.


Not to be arguementative here, but at 18 I would be allowed to carry more powerful weapons in the military. Which I plan on joining after college. And, ofcourse they get WAY better training then I could recieve as a civilian. But, like many have said here, good training and a level head will help me in the long run. I don't doubt that their are people my age who are VERY irresponisble. Alot of the people I know that are my age fit that profile. Plus I have atleast seven more months before I can even carry one. Due to the expenses in training and obtaining a firearm and the license (90 days after applying.)


I don't resent any of the comments questioning my age or abilities. They can only help me and I understand your concerns as LEO's. To some it might seem like you are trying to hinder me but it does show me your true intentions of trying to pevent anything bad from happening. I truely do appreciate all the responses.


Also, though I don't need the firearm for my job I will be allowed to carry it in my car at work. And, since I work from my car and sit on locations overnight often time alone, in areas where people are breaking into our locations it does have a small degree of danger. I always call the local sheriff's or police department to inform them I will be in the area so they know I am there and they can check on me throughout the night if they wish.