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TSA's Badges ?
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Posted 5 months ago
Screeners at the nation's airport checkpoints are going to start wearing police-style badges -
The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is starting to equip its 48,000 screeners with 3-inch-by-2-inch, silver-colored, copper and zinc badges that will be worn on new royal-blue police-style shirts.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?
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| Posted 5 months ago Honestly, it doesn't bother me one way or the other. It might help them some, although "the badge" isn't respected like it once was. I personally think it's the image of the department that gets the respect, the badge is just an identifier. Beyond fatigue lies compensatory hypertrophy |
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| Posted 5 months ago
The new look, which includes a metallic badge that's similar to what real police officers wear, was implemented so that fliers would treat the screeners with more respect.
My question is: Who ever said we get any respect?
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| Posted 5 months ago To be honest with you , I believe it gives them a more professional look and generally that means the average traveler will most likely respect them more. Rex you are right about the respect thing but they are not on the street dealing with the slimy posterior orifices that the Police have to deal with. I have to believe it is going to help them as long as they stay professional. Just my opinion. Glory earned on the field of battle , can never be taken away , you take it with you to the grave. Quote by General George Armstrong Custer |
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| Posted 5 months ago Respect, what the hell is that? |
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| Posted 5 months ago No offense to TSA. I don't like it. Just another example of watering down the professional LEO image, and others trying to take advantage that a badge will give them more "respect." Do your job, do it well, and do it professionally, and you'll get all the respect you need. A doctor doesn't seem to find the need to make up a badge to get respect, why does TSA? |
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| Posted 5 months ago Just a badge isn't going to give them any respect, they will have to earn it by being professional. Security guards have badges as do some store security like Target. Doesn't make them respectable or impress anyone. What TSA needs to do is screen it's employees and get rid of those that are there only to play grab-ass with the women or have a power trip that they want to push others around. I have seen TSA people playing and giggling like idiots and flirting with each other rather than watching what they are there for. I have also been pulled from the line and completely searched as well as my briefcase and carry on. This after they saw my police ID! News flash, I am not the one you want to worry about. I am the one you want on the plane! One insisted on checking everything she could legally. I had a VIP pass flying first class for free and my badge and ID was on top on my paperwork in my briefcase. Didn't matter to this lowlife bitch. Even the Stewardess was out there apologizing and telling the TSA that she did not have to do this to me. She probably got arrested or ticketed by a real cop and this was her revenge. I hate TSA. |
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| Posted 5 months ago I believe that the badge is what one receives upon completion of the police academy. How long is their police academy? |
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| Posted 5 months ago A badge should only be given to a Law Enforcement Officer. Not security, not firefighters, not EMT's, not bounty hunters, and surely not TSA. I love my brothers and sisters at the Fire Dept and EMS. So don't take offense. But there are to many morons out there, with a badge. The general public sometimes just does not know the difference. I can handle anything that life throws at me~ I may not be able to handle it well, or correctly, gracefully, with finesse, or expediently ~ But I will handle it. |
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| Posted 5 months ago With the lousy experiences myself and other police officers I know had with TSA they could all stand naked with badges and I would not give them any respect. |
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| Posted 5 months ago The TSA needs to train their people to act in a professional and courteous manner when dealing with the public. Sticking a "Badge" on them will not gain them any "Respect", it is their attitudes and demeanor that puts them in a bad light with the public to begin with. Tighten up on the employment screening process and give them plenty of "In-Service" training to raise their professionalism. "ILLEGITIMI NON CARBORUNDUM" |
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| Posted 5 months ago This is a dumb idea.... not only from the respect angle, but how about FISCALLY? Consider that even if they're getting the badges for a buck apiece (& you can bet they're not) that's $48,000 plus the cost of shipping 'em all across the country.... this is what I call WASTE.... Then again...here's another consideration... how about the LOST & STOLEN items ???? http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2006-12-22-tsa-badges-uniforms-missing-lost-stolen_x.htm SAN ANTONIO (AP) — More than 3,700 identification badges and uniform items have been reported lost or stolen from Transportation Security Administration employees since 2003, according to documents obtained by a San Antonio television station.
WOAI-TV received the documents under the Freedom of Information Act. Los Angeles International Airport reported the most items with 636 missing uniforms. O'Hare International Airport in Chicago reported 189 missing badges. Bush International Airport in Houston led Texas with 77 missing items. Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport had about 40 items gone. Security experts have said the badges and uniforms could pose a security threat if they end up in the wrong hands. Earl Morris, field operations general manager for TSA, said the missing items don't mean the system is flawed. "We have many different security levels in place to thwart any kind of attempt to breech our security," Morris said. U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-San Antonio, said he will propose legislation to fine TSA employees who lose their badges or uniforms. I'm not "really" a troll....I just love changing my avatar... because...
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| Posted 5 months ago it's bad enough that these screeners think they are cops, now they are going to think they have arrest authority with this new badge.....bad..bad..bad..idea 21 ME 918 |
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| Posted 5 months ago The Transportation Security Administration not The Transportation Law Enforcement Administration |
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| Posted 5 months ago JMO, but I think it is a BAD idea to give the screeners badges like what LEO's wear... Respect is ALWAYS EARNED; and is NEVER given !!!!!!! If thy neighbor offend thee, give each of his children bagpipes........Scottish Proverb He who strikes the first blow admits he's lost the argument.---"Chinese Proverb" |
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| Posted 5 months ago I don't have any problem with it. Bus drivers used to have badges on a uniform. I think that a sharp uniform helps to promote a better professional image. All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, then it may be a troll doing an impression of a duck. |
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| Posted 5 months ago Dog the Moronic Bounty Hunter wears a badge! Does it really matter who wears one now? |
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| Posted 5 months ago I personally think that they should be given nose plugs rather than badges. With them making everyone take off their shoes, that got to stink! Being a Tyrant does not make one a Leader! |
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| Posted 5 months ago I posted a comment under this in the news section and would like to add that on a recent trip to the airport to fly around in an overpriced pressurized tube, I came across some of these screeners. I was not at all impressed. Not only did they look unprofessional at the airport just in their general appearance (long hair, baggy pants, unkempt uniforms, etc.), but they were also very rude. If the federal government feels compelled to give these folks badges, I can actually visualize a troubled traveler running up to a shielded screener needing some type of emergent help and the screener being as unprofessional with them as they were with me, knowing that I was a police offficer. A badge, to the normal citizen, resembles authority and although certified LEOs don't get enough respect with the accompanying gun and gear, I fear that these folks will become worse than they are presently. |
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| Posted 5 months ago nikkochey says ...
WHAT NIK SAID----in BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS. |
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| Posted 5 months ago They could have gone to an embroidered badge instead of an actual tin.It still looks professional, it cant be lost and doesnt lower the value of a badge on law enforcement. What if they are driving to or from work and the public thinks they are LEO. They are also putting themselves in harms way .... Kill a cop day (or what looks like one) |
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| Posted 5 months ago I don't like it at all. There are too many people with too little control and it can easily be used to impersonate an officer. I see the headlines now!!! I've always been a big advocate of no arrest authority, no badge. On the flip side of things the interpretors with the National Park Service wear the same badge, or used to, as the law enforcement rangers. "Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain Forums Moderator |
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| Posted 5 months ago tlwinkles379 says ...
GOOD points............. |
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| Posted 5 months ago
I don’t necessarily think it will give them more respect. I have heard from lots of people I know that fly regularly that the screeners and airport personnel are rude and aren’t not professional. I think they need to work on their professional image before trying to play the part. TSA is under the Department of Homeland Security, just as the border patrol. The border patrol has badges just like port security and coast guard. These are federal security jobs, just because there job title says “security” doesn’t make less important. They are trying to do the same as Law Enforcement does on the street and that is protect lives and property. I could really careless; the badge doesn’t make a person more professional the person does. I don’t agree that firefighters and EMS people shouldn’t have badges; they too are trying to protect lives and are public servants. Next thing you’ll say is the FBI, Secret service , park rangers, U.S. Capital police, ATF,DEA and other Federal jobs don’t need badges get real. Security Officers play just has a significant role in protecting lives and serving the public as Law Enforcement does. I’m a reserve officer and on a SRT Team and also a full time security guard. I work for the government protecting the entry to military an installation. I see both sides of the fence, half of our personnel that work with me are Retired Police officers. Yes I know there are some security officers that shouldn’t be able to work the gates at six flags, and that they give security officers a bad name, but there are some real professionals out there that deserve to be treated like professionals. For anyone to say only law enforcement deserves badges is retarded. I do like the idea of the embroidery badges I have them on my PD uniform and I love them. I don’t see any reason why they shouldn’t; they are supposed to be protecting us from the terrorist. If you all forgot about 9-11 there just is just as important as writing tickets and responding to domestic violence calls so give them a break. That’s my two cents on the this. |
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| Posted 5 months ago hospitalcop says ...
This is as good a place to begin with the problems of professionalism at the TSA as any. Badges won't change the public perception regarding the safety of our air travel, good security will. The problems there are bigger than the color of their shirts or if they wear badges. Changing these things means nothing when it comes to getting the job done right. Americans don't respect TSA for a lot of reason, mostly because they are pampered and have an attitude about real security. Tough. It needs to be done so deal with it and be nice or take the bus. Have a nice day... Couple of points here though. First - they already wear embroidered "patch" badges. What is happening now is the replacement of those. Second - this isn't about respect for Security Guards or lack of respect for Security Guards. The comments here have reflected a general dislike for the idea of giving the TSA employees badges. That's pretty direct and easy to follow. Third - FBI, Secret Service, U.S. Capital Police, ATF, DEA, are in fact sworn Law Enforcement Officers with full Federal arrest authority. So, the next thing we say will not be that they shouldn't have badges. I don't care if you are a Security Guard or a Life Guard. If you act like a mature adult, do your job professionally, and call your mom on Mother's Day, you get kudos from me. I'm not going to look down my nose at the work that you do. Now back to the regularly scheduled programing... Happiness is a belt fed weapon.
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| Posted 5 months ago nope not a good idea at all. just as i dont believe that jailers should wear badges. LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY BUT RATHER TO SLIDE IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING "HOLY SHIT....WHAT A RIDE" |
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| Posted 5 months ago Look at the design of the badges.....they look just like the new federal style badge worn by BICE,FBI, DEA, etc..... This is so bad! "Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain Forums Moderator |
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| Posted 5 months ago Here's the USA Today article regarding the TSA badges: http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2008-06-15-tsa-badges_N.htm?csp=34 I agree that a change in their training and approach to the public will make a difference in the way that they are perceived as far as professionalism. The important point is that they need to be told that they have no powers of arrest and the consequences of impersonating an LE officer. |
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| Posted 5 months ago U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, R-San Antonio, said he will propose legislation to fine TSA employees who lose their badges or uniforms.
Fine them.... Hell suspend them for 7 days first offense and fire them on the second one For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 5 months ago As for TSA employees, they have the general public scared to approach them, therefore I don't think they are in anyway professional in their job. The new badge and uniform will get them into alot of trouble and may result in impersonating a P.O. When I was in the U.S. Marshals Air Operations Service, they acted as if we were some sort of low class citizens and beneath them. "How quick they were to find out they were wrong!" They pick on the elderly and very young, no this is a very bad idea. |
