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I have a question that Has had me wondering for a while now. On a few profiles I have seen I see Basic Peace Officer Course at such and such college in TX. Now my question.  How the heck does this work? Is this something controlled by the State of TX or does it vary from region to region within TX.? Reason I ask is here in Montana there is only one Law Enforcement Academy in the State. It's a bit confusing to me that a state can have so many academies.

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KY has 4


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The licensing for Texas is controlled by TCLEOSE (Texas Commision of Law Enforcement Standards and Education). There are NUMEROUS regional academies, as well as academies hosted by college campuses. They are taught by adjunct instructors (certified LE Instructors, such as myself). The testing is controlled by TCLEOSE in Austin.


This is how future officers 'self-sponsor' themselves prior to being hired. Those who apply and are accepted by a larger agency, will go through that agencies academy (which is also controlled by TCLEOSE).


I know...it confused the hell out of me when I first started, but it is actually a very efficient system.


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Ok , so then all of the instructors are state certified by TCLEOSE and each academy follows the same lesson plan /cirric. All testing is the same and the physical requirements are the same state wide?

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Yes and no.


The academy is basic preperation for the state exam, which is standard state wide. How each academy gets the recruits to the exam varies. Up until recently a physical training cirriculum was not mandated by TCLEOSE, but now is. So many hours of certain areas (ie: Traffic Law, Penal Code, Defensive Tactics, etc...) was also mandated, but as you can imagine, my lesson plan would vary from another instructors. The instructors are certified.


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Well NIKK this will blow your mind then. In Virginia each department that has 100 or more officers has it's own academy. There are also regonial academies. I would not be surpised to find out there are 100 academies in Virginia


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bad_LT has or does that present(ed) problems ? Such as being academy graduate from one area and not accepted in an other area? I just see all kinds of problems with it.

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Here in NC almost every community college in our 100 counties has a police academy for Basic Law Enforcement Training (BLET) as well as larger PD's  and SO's have there own in-house academies. All of the cirriculum is uniform and put out by the state and every one must pass a state exam to become certified.

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Each department is different here, They are gettin better though. Had a friend started with the Richmond City PD went to their academy, stayed three years left to go to one of the counties, went to there full academy (gotta be trained their way), Left there and went to the State Police, went to their academy (trainned their way). Each department here want you to learn their style of policing. Not being a native of this state i found it kind of odd, but they act like it is the only way to do it..


 


There is a state certifying test and it has to meet the state standards but the little lings are different, reports, ect


 


 


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Sorry I highjacked your Texas thread with Virginia crap i will shut up now........LOL


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Not a problem It's interesting how in varies from state to state and then within each state. I think it makes the job a hell of a lot harder than it should be.

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It really is amazing how differently things vary state to state.   It's too much trouble explaining ours so here's a link so you can see how many we have....


 


www.gapost.org/Academies.htm        I went to one of the regional academies back before our department got it's own academy.  Our academy is about to become the first academy to be CALEA certified in the nation.   (at least that's what I'm told.  I ain't researching it)


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in KY there is:


THE KENTUCKY STATE POLICE ACADEMY- Just KY Troopers- "Thin Gray Line"


The Louisville Metro Academy


The Lexington Metro Academy


DOCJT-Richmond KY- Everyone who is not in the above listed academies goes here


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The licensing for Texas is controlled by TCLEOSE (Texas Commision of Law Enforcement Standards and Education). There are NUMEROUS regional academies, as well as academies hosted by college campuses. They are taught by adjunct instructors (certified LE Instructors, such as myself). The testing is controlled by TCLEOSE in Austin.


This is how future officers 'self-sponsor' themselves prior to being hired. Those who apply and are accepted by a larger agency, will go through that agencies academy (which is also controlled by TCLEOSE).


I know...it confused the hell out of me when I first started, but it is actually a very efficient system.



Nikk...My dept has its own "academy" but since they dont hire enough at one time they also send to Central Texas Regional hosted at Central Texas College in Killeen TX.....there were a whoping 12 people in my academy class...6 from Temple...2 Copperas Cove...2 Harker Heights...1 Lampasas...and 1 Morgans Point Resort (dont ask..lol).....we only hire usually 2-5 every six months or more......and held our first (in a long time that is) academy in Temple a few months ago.....


oh and as GTS stated all licencing is done by Austin TCLEOSE......Far as I know the DPS Academy is the only "live in" academy here in TX


After the Acaemy...Temple has a 5 Month Field Training Program....consisting of 5 phases... 0% - 25% - 50% - 75%- 100%.....during the 100% or Ghost phase the FTI is in civilian clothes and well basicly doest leave the car you handle the call.....and if you dont complete certian tasks you stay in that phase till you do......they only "loop" you a time or 2 depending on the issue...but it works we have some great officers and have been able to weed out a couple that just couldnt get the road side of the job.......


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Texas is BIG and POPULATED. There are many academies that can teach the basic police academy course however all are controlled by TECLEOSE. Upon the completion of the course the class takes the state exam administered by TECLEOSE. The college or department holding the class is rated by the average score of the class and the number of failures, if there are any. If an academy has low averages and numerous failures then TECLEOSE will terminate that academy's teaching authority. The departments of any size have there own training academy's. Smaller agencies rely on the others or for traveling classes. Texas has alot of mandated annual trining that every officer must take to keep the TECLEOSE license. We have differant levels of licenses as well. Basic, Advanced and Master. Most agencies pay incentites for each level. (Example Basic has no incentive, Advanced $150.00 monthly, Master $250.00. ) You get to higher levels by training hours and number of years. Hope this helps a little.

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Certified academies in Virginia


These are only the large ones there are too many small ones to list


Cardinal Criminal Justice Academy

Central Shenandoah Criminal Justice Academy

Central Virginia Criminal Justice Academy

Chesapeake Bay Bridge tunnel Police Academy

Chesapeake Police Academy

Chesapeake Sheriff's Training Academy

Chesterfield Co. Police Academy

Chesterfield Co. Sheriff's Training Academy

Crater Criminal Justice Academy

Fairfax County Criminal Justice Academy

Hampton Roads Criminal Justice Training Academy

Henrico Co. Police Training Academy

Henrico Sheriff's Office Training Academy

Metro Transit Police Academy

New River Criminal Justice Training Academy

Norfolk Police Academy

Norfolk Sheriff's Office Training Academy

Northern Virginia Criminal Justice Academy

Piedmont Reg. Criminal Justice Training Academy

Portsmouth Sheriff's Training Academy

Prince William County Criminal Justice Academy

Rappahannock Regional Criminal Justice Academy

Richmond Police Academy

Richmond Sheriff's Office Training Center

Roanoke Co. Criminal Justice Academy

Roanoke Police Academy

Southwest Virginia Criminal Justice Trng Academy

VCU Police Academy

Virginia Abc Training Academy (alcohol Beverage Control)

Virginia Beach Police Academy

Virginia Beach Sheriff's Office Training Academy

Virginia Capitol Police Training School

Virginia Game Department Academy

Virginia State Police Academy

 These are the main ones. You still have all of the smaller departments who have their own in-House in service classes


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Wow, Here in Montana it's a live in Academy.Day classes and nightclasses plus home work, A week on the range and driving course. A week of scenerios day and night. DT's evryday for 6 weeks about 2 hrs a day before academic classes. . This course is 12 weeks. Once you graduate you can apply for your Basic certificate after one Year. Then you have to have so many years and so many hours of P.O.S.T. training to get your intermediate, advanced, supervisory ,command and administrative certifications. There are hundreds of hours available through P.O.S.T. in addition to the Basic School. Montana Highway Patrol classes are 4 weeks longer than the Basic academy as they cover traffic , traffic and more traffic, commercial vehicle inspections and traffic.


 


CO/DO have i believe a three week live in school and they are not LEO's. There are of course advanced scools for detectives/ Investigators, instructor certification is done through the Fbi. We also have the oppotunities to attend many other FBI schools and achieve a national certification. For example I am certified throught he FBI as a Post Blast Investigator, Instructor, Incident Commander, Accident reconstruction blah , blah , blah.

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LMAO Nikk i need to get that cert in Blah blah blah...J/K....ya the same here for the basic only after 1 yr do you get it nad for advanced and inter and such takes many hours/yrs service to achieve.....it is surprisinghow different each and every state is with their cetification...and im sure the Penal Codes and Traffic Laws are basilcy same just worded different.......


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Texas is BIG and POPULATED. There are many academies that can teach the basic police academy course however all are controlled by TECLEOSE. Upon the completion of the course the class takes the state exam administered by TECLEOSE. The college or department holding the class is rated by the average score of the class and the number of failures, if there are any. If an academy has low averages and numerous failures then TECLEOSE will terminate that academy's teaching authority. The departments of any size have there own training academy's. Smaller agencies rely on the others or for traveling classes. Texas has alot of mandated annual trining that every officer must take to keep the TECLEOSE license. We have differant levels of licenses as well. Basic, Advanced and Master. Most agencies pay incentites for each level. (Example Basic has no incentive, Advanced $150.00 monthly, Master $250.00. ) You get to higher levels by training hours and number of years. Hope this helps a little.



These academies are a dime a dozen, as only the larger cities can afford to hire and send cadets to these regional academies.  Often times, a cadet can sign up for a certification course with or without sponsor and find themselves unable to gain employment. I think only one cadet in our class didn't get picked up by anybody. One of my classmates is already close to being Chief Deputy nearby. 


I'm lucky to have decided to go through when i did, because it's much harder to gain entry into our regional academy as the Sheriff's Officer and Waco PD uses them now versus their own training academy.


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Not a problem It's interesting how in varies from state to state and then within each state. I think it makes the job a hell of a lot harder than it should be.



Here in California there must be hundreds of Academies state wide, but thery all have to be certified, and follow the guidelines of P.O.S.T. (Peace Officers Standard of Training).  All have to have a certain amount of hours trained in specified subject matter, and any department could concievably set aside specialty training in other subjects or topics.   That is the cert one would call Basic Academy (incoming personnel)  then we have Intermediate, Advanced and Manegerial P.O.S.T. certificates; all requiring a certain amount of experience and training hours to achieve that specific level.


I could not even begin to imagine having only one Academy for the entire State of California, they'rd be a waiting list a mile long........!


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The Criminal Justice Training Council of Massachusetts sets the standards for all Municipal Police Academies. The State Police Have there own Back to Basic Training Academy, They loose about 1/4 of the applicants in the first two days, Just like Boot Camp for them , They take great pride in turning out "Marine Type Troopers". The Municipal academies are not quite so militaristic in style. I come from the older 480 Hr. class , now I believe it has been moved up to 600 hrs. and yearly up dates. The State has about 20 Municipal Academies that all go by the same guidelines set out by the C.J.T.C. . Also most of the Departments are Civil Service so as to eliminate POLITICS from getting involved.  "political interference in Massachusetts, never happen, we have Kerry and Kennedy as our guiding saviours". Ha-ha.


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