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There's got to be a happy medium in this thing guys....when I clicked on the "Request LEO Verification", I never expected to have the same gold badge on the right of my avatar as all the actual cops on this forum. However, since that is the case, why not suggest to Chris to have like a different color of badge or even a different symbol?

This is just a suggestion, it looks like whoever implimented the LEO verification wishes to keep it running with COs having LEO status...which I really don't care either way, but what do you all think of having a diffent color badge?

Gold= LEOs

Silver= Everyone Else

I realize that a lot of officers on here feel as if they are being over-run by us "non-cops" on this forum and you feel the need to defend each other and watch each others' backs...and I realize I'm not apart of this click. I hope to one day earn all of your respect and trust on this forum as many other people do...and I realize that this forum is essentially your guys' stomping ground and a place to hang out and even create networking contacts. Having said that, I'd ask that the "stfu your just a CO" mentality just get left of this topic and just plainly tell me what you guys think of the suggestion.

I think it should remain the same except the verification process should be thorough.

Lets make it simple 

   A STAR   FOR REAL verified  COPS 

NO STAR     for everyone else

    like  it was before the money hungry, deluted process, police wannabe asses  changed it  ......      before you could get  the STAR  you had to  prove  who were..   it's  bull shiite  that all  you need to do is click to be verified   THATS  no glitch in the system   IF it was it would have been fixed...   

                   I told myself  I wouldn't post  in this  F'ed UP  LOOBY ( yea I spelled it wrong because it  rhymes with the mammalary glands  who choose to change the name from a  respectable title)

                               A lobby  is where every acne covered,  snot nosed kid goes to hang out to be disorderly  causing real cops to show up and clean up  the mess when it gets out of hand   ...     well at least  some of the content  of the tilte is  true

                         FIX  the "glitch"     if you want  this to be a POLICE site  STAR  for real cops  NO star  for wannabe  cops  simple  solution

I say LEO only gets a star  it's the way it has been till well I do not know what happend in protest I think all LEO should go to the big star like a couple weeks ago

Star for Verified LEO only!!!

Pro_Cop says ...

Chris_Cosgriff says ...

It appears that many people for some reason think the criteria and process for getting verified has changed. It never has. Ever. Since the day the LEO verification process was provided it has remained unchanged, nor has the criteria ever changed. The criteria has been published on the LEO verification form since day one and anyone is free to review it at any time.

In fact, well over half of the people who request verification are actually denied verification for failing to provide the necessary documentation.

To say simply that anyone who submits the form gets verified couldn't be further from the truth. Every single person who has been verified meets the criteria that has been set forth. That criteria supports PoliceLink's mission of providing a forum for the entire law enforcement community, not any single subset of law enforcement.

THIS GOES BACK TO NIKKOCHEY'S THREAD ABOUT STARS. LIKE WHO REALLY CARES? WHAT DOES THAT MAKE CIVILIANS......?

I'M SURE I'LL CATCH FLACK FOR THIS; BUT I DON'T CARE. HE WAS RIGHT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE STARS AND NEITHER DO I. I LOOK AT WHAT THE PERSON HAS TO SAY. THERE'S A LOT OF STUPID LEO'S AND CO'S TOO.

Pro_Cop..........I agree with you that the number of stars under your picture doesn't matter but the Gold Badge by your user name does!! That Gold Badge helps identify who the "True" LEO's are which is important to other LEO's on here when making new friends and asking for advice. Many people on here have claimed to be LEO's and aren't that's why they can never get that Gold Badge by there user name. Kind of like PSDIVER, remember him????? TROLLS don't get the Gold Badge, it helps in more way's then one get to know who you are dealing with.

officer1983 says ...

Pro_Cop says ...

Chris_Cosgriff says ...

It appears that many people for some reason think the criteria and process for getting verified has changed. It never has. Ever. Since the day the LEO verification process was provided it has remained unchanged, nor has the criteria ever changed. The criteria has been published on the LEO verification form since day one and anyone is free to review it at any time.

In fact, well over half of the people who request verification are actually denied verification for failing to provide the necessary documentation.

To say simply that anyone who submits the form gets verified couldn't be further from the truth. Every single person who has been verified meets the criteria that has been set forth. That criteria supports PoliceLink's mission of providing a forum for the entire law enforcement community, not any single subset of law enforcement.

THIS GOES BACK TO NIKKOCHEY'S THREAD ABOUT STARS. LIKE WHO REALLY CARES? WHAT DOES THAT MAKE CIVILIANS......?

I'M SURE I'LL CATCH FLACK FOR THIS; BUT I DON'T CARE. HE WAS RIGHT....HE DIDN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE STARS AND NEITHER DO I. I LOOK AT WHAT THE PERSON HAS TO SAY. THERE'S A LOT OF STUPID LEO'S AND CO'S TOO.

Pro_Cop..........I agree with you that the number of stars under your picture doesn't matter but the Gold Badge by your user name does!! That Gold Badge helps identify who the "True" LEO's are which is important to other LEO's on here when making new friends and asking for advice. Many people on here have claimed to be LEO's and aren't that's why they can never get that Gold Badge by there user name. Kind of like PSDIVER, remember him????? TROLLS don't get the Gold Badge, it helps in more way's then one get to know who you are dealing with.

I thought this was a cops only thread.  And then that same person comes on and says the unforgiveable, "There's a lot of stupid cops and CO's too.  Mighty bold statement there, considering you in the house of LEO's. Care to name names.............?

I agree...STAR for real LEO's and no star for everyone else.  I would understand if the site was called "CO/SECURITY/PO/PAROLE/PROBATION Link, but it's not and hopefully Non LEO's will understand

Bookem8 says ...

officer1983 says ...

It appears that someone has deleted there post. Wonder why???

Hmmmmmmmmm.... a missing post about stupid LEOs and COs...got to give her credit for trying to take it back

Who was it should be able to go to there profile and see it

Chris_Cosgriff says ...

It appears that many people for some reason think the criteria and process for getting verified has changed. It never has. Ever. Since the day the LEO verification process was provided it has remained unchanged, nor has the criteria ever changed. The criteria has been published on the LEO verification form since day one and anyone is free to review it at any time.

In fact, well over half of the people who request verification are actually denied verification for failing to provide the necessary documentation.

To say simply that anyone who submits the form gets verified couldn't be further from the truth. Every single person who has been verified meets the criteria that has been set forth. That criteria supports PoliceLink's mission of providing a forum for the entire law enforcement community, not any single subset of law enforcement.

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Well Cosgriff you opened this can of worms so lets see if what I have to say stays or is deleted. All of the Mods can verify this and if they don't it's only because the are kissing ass. The original concept was that it would be in conjunction with HR218. Then came the changes. You are the one who set the rules in February. You are the one who does the verification. You are not a cop and never were . Being an explorer doesn't count. You dont havbe the slightest idea what it means to EARN that badge. you have no idea of the sacrifices.

As far as the criteria set forth it is bogus that LEO badge doesn't mean a damn thing anymore. As far as persons verified well how about icelady11 and cidnate. I'm not saying they are bad people or anything of the sort but on Icelady' s profile it states she is former not retired..And Nate is an analyst. Then check the approval of CO/DO's. Many do not met the requirements of their state and are in fact not certified as LEO in their state. But however they are here. You say this is Police Link. Well read the other threads Cosgriff the ones baout how hard Cops work for the badge.

How about persons that were suspended and you allowed them them back without even talking to the mod that suspended them. One because his family was in LE and you just know he wouldn't act that way because you knew the family? Deny that you did those things go ahead.

How about Ask A Cop, There is a hell of a big difference between Cop and LEO have you read those threads or is this again your definition and that's it? How about answering these questions or statements. Thjese are part of why I left as a site Mod. These were passed to TheSarge numerous times. I will also make it real clear that I did not request to be reinstated as a MOD but you felt free to address that didn't you. Other Mods requested that so doesn't that speak for it's self? How about the support Henry (RetiredCop) and i got and still maintain with the general membership ? Do you read those threads?  I think that when you realize that YOU do not have all the answersand ask for some assistance you may have a good idea here but if you insist on being the final word on all things IT WILL FALL APART.

You know I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about any of this. You know what is right and what is wrong so do as you see fit.

Chris,

If I am not mistaken, theSarge and the rest of the mods (at least I was) were using HR218 as a guideline for LEO status. Shortly after that you, Chris, came on the Mod. group and stated that you used a "broader" definition of what a LEO was. You stated that there were other LEO professions that you included that the Federal Government did not recognize in HR218. Am I correct in that statement? I am just curious if you would be willing to explain what you consider "broader" to the members. I feel if you give them what YOU and POLICE LINK recognize as a LEO, compared to who the Federal Government recognizes, it would clear this issue up once and for all. I was hesitent to post to you because I am somewhat concerned about you taking my meaning wrong because we think so differently. So, I do not mean any disrespect by this post, I beiieve I am being professional in my approach and I feel if you give the membership this answer, it'll end all this speculation.

RetiredCop says ...

You should only get a star if you "earned" it. The cops will understand.

DAT's RITE................................

oldsple says ...

Verification is an excellent idea.  I am curious what a broader definition of LEO is ?

Apparently it's evryone on PL that isn't considering joining but I'm sure soon it will include them.

For whom does HR 218 apply?

This law applies to persons who meet the definition listed below of a "Qualified Law Enforcement Officer."

qualified law enforcement officer means an employee of a governmental agency who--

`(1) is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and has statutory powers of arrest;

`(2) is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm;

`(3) is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency;

`(4) meets standards, if any, established by the agency which require the employee to regularly qualify in the use of a firearm;

`(5) is not under the influence of alcohol or another intoxicating or hallucinatory drug or substance; and

`(6) is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a firearm.

KSP494 says ...

nikkochey says ...

Chris_Cosgriff says ...

It appears that many people for some reason think the criteria and process for getting verified has changed. It never has. Ever. Since the day the LEO verification process was provided it has remained unchanged, nor has the criteria ever changed. The criteria has been published on the LEO verification form since day one and anyone is free to review it at any time.

In fact, well over half of the people who request verification are actually denied verification for failing to provide the necessary documentation.

To say simply that anyone who submits the form gets verified couldn't be further from the truth. Every single person who has been verified meets the criteria that has been set forth. That criteria supports PoliceLink's mission of providing a forum for the entire law enforcement community, not any single subset of law enforcement.

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Well Cosgriff you opened this can of worms so lets see if what I have to say stays or is deleted. All of the Mods can verify this and if they don't it's only because the are kissing ass. The original concept was that it would be in conjunction with HR218. Then came the changes. You are the one who set the rules in February. You are the one who does the verification. You are not a cop and never were . Being an explorer doesn't count. You dont havbe the slightest idea what it means to EARN that badge. you have no idea of the sacrifices.

 

As far as the criteria set forth it is bogus that LEO badge doesn't mean a damn thing anymore. As far as persons verified well how about icelady11 and cidnate. I'm not saying they are bad people or anything of the sort but on Icelady' s profile it states she is former not retired..And Nate is an analyst. Then check the approval of CO/DO's. Many do not met the requirements of their state and are in fact not certified as LEO in their state. But however they are here. You say this is Police Link. Well read the other threads Cosgriff the ones baout how hard Cops work for the badge.

How about persons that were suspended and you allowed them them back without even talking to the mod that suspended them. One because his family was in LE and you just know he wouldn't act that way because you knew the family? Deny that you did those things go ahead.

How about Ask A Cop, There is a hell of a big difference between Cop and LEO have you read those threads or is this again your definition and that's it? How about answering these questions or statements. Thjese are part of why I left as a site Mod. These were passed to Kim (TheSarge) numerous times. I will also make it real clear that I did not request to be reinstated as a MOD but you felt free to address that didn't you. Other Mods requested that so doesn't that speak for it's self? How about the support Henry (RetiredCop) and i got and still maintain with the general membership ? Do you read those threads?  I think that when you realize that YOU do not have all the answersand ask for some assistance you may have a good idea here but if you insist on being the final word on all things IT WILL FALL APART.

You know I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about any of this. You know what is right and what is wrong so do as you see fit.

 

Nikk it is definitely already falling apart. It is offensive to COPS, and surely by now he knows it but doesn't care. For all you others, just to be clear it's not about being better than anyone. It's about what did you do to earn your status as an LEO on police link. I went through a year long hiring process with about 5000 total applicants. I was one of 86 people selected after that year long process. I attended a 22 week State Police Academy that was run like boot camp, where 51 of those 86 graduated. I had a year long probation where I could be fired for little to no reason. Why should I bear the same status as someone who could have criminal convictions on their record, attend MAYBE a month long training course if any. Or someone who for whatever reason did not make it in law enforcement and was either fired or quit. If they are not retired why should they have the same status on here. They might as well take out verification all together.

Well, he's going to fall apart even more, cause his claim, and his repeated putting my name in a conversation and topic hasn't ceased.  For your information, not that I need to expose this, is messing with my credibility, and it really doesn't concern me if you get offended, as you have continually (with a bug up your a**) attempted  to disprove my verification.  To start off (I'll give the run down here) I worked 2 years as a limited tenure in the SFSO, went to SFPD as a special PO for 5 years, then through the damnest  testing , I e