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Posted 4 months ago The haters are at it again. I posted in a thread that was open for public discussion about politics, yet found out it was for liberals only. I post known fact about the democrat party and there role in the 1900's in blocking the advancement of anyone who was not white. Well the thread was locked deleted and I was kicked out of the group. The chicken chit did not have the nerve to say a word to me. I can not remember his name but I will remember the avatar he uses.....
let the games begin For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Meh, Hippies. What ya gonna do? Can't live with em, can't eradicate em. |
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| Posted 4 months ago This UHHHHHH person goes by """""""""ballreward""""""""""" For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago I post information on the dixie-crats and on Woodrow Wilson and the misdeeds they did. I also posted what the republicans like Lincoln, and nixon did for the rights of all.... This liberal POS deleted me and closed the group. Did not say a word...... For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Dixiecrats, a splinter group of Southern Democrats in the U.S. elections of 1948, who rejected President Harry S. Truman's civil-rights program and revolted against the civil-rights plank adopted at the Democratic National Convention. For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Here are some known facts of a Democrat President in the 1900's
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IT WAS INAUGURATION Day, and in the judgment of one later historian, "the atmosphere in the nation's capital bore ominous signs for Negroes." Washington rang with happy Rebel Yells, while bands all over town played "Dixie." The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, whose role it was to swear in the newly elected Southern president, was himself a former member of the Ku Klux Klan. Meanwhile, "an unidentified associate of the new Chief Executive warned that since the South ran the nation, Negroes should expect to be treated as a servile race." Somebody had even sent the new president a possum, an act supposedly "consonant with Southern tradition."
. The portrait of his Inauguration Day is drawn from historian Lawrence J. Friedman's The White Savage: Racial Fantasies in the Postbellum South (1970).
Wilson's historical reputation is that of a farsighted progressive. That role has been assigned to him by historians based on his battle for the League of Nations, and the opposition he faced from isolationist Republicans. Indeed, the adjective "Wilsonian," still in use, implies a positive if hopelessly idealistic vision for the extension of justice and democratic values throughout the world. Domestically, however, Wilson was a retrograde racist, one who attempted to engineer the diminution of both justice and democracy for American blacks--who were enjoying little of either to begin with. (In fact, Wilson reportedly struck a racial-equality clause from the League of Nations charter as well.)
Wilson's racist views were hardly a secret. He was born in 1856 in little Staunton, Virginia. Though his family had recently relocated from famously abolitionist Ohio, his father, a Presbyterian minister, was pro-slavery and a supporter of the Confederacy. Wilson was still a boy when the family moved to Augusta, Georgia, where he grew up amid the Civil War and Reconstruction.
His public career reflected his upbringing: Wilson's five-volume study of American history was peppered with Lost Cause visions of a happy antebellum South. As president of Princeton, he had turned away black applicants. He was elected U.S. president only because the 1912 campaign featured a powerful third party, Theodore Roosevelt's Progressive, or "Bull Moose," Party, which drew Republican votes from incumbent William Howard Taft. Wilson emerged with a plurality victory, winning a clear majority of votes in only one state outside the South (Arizona).
What Wilson's election meant to the South was "home rule"--that is, license to pursue its racial practices without concern about federal interference. That is exactly what the 1948 Dixiecrats wanted. But Southern "home rule" was only the beginning of the administration's racial politics. Upon taking power in Washington, Wilson and the many other Southerners he brought into his cabinet set about changing the way the federal government handled its own race matters.
For example, one Legacy of the post-Civil War Republican ascendancy was that Washington's large black populace had access to federal jobs and worked with whites in largely integrated circumstances. In some departments, white clerks worked under black supervision. Wilson's cabinet put an end to that, bringing Jim Crow to Washington.
Wilson allowed various officials to segregate the toilets, cafeterias, and work areas of their departments. One justification involved health: White government workers had to be protected from contagious diseases, especially venereal diseases, that racists imagined were being spread by blacks. Black federal supervisors, along with most black diplomats, were replaced by whites; numerous black federal officials in the South were removed from their posts; the local Washington police force and fire department stopped hiring blacks.
For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Republican President nixon did more for the civil rights movement than Jackson and Sharpton combined.
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Why Richard Nixon Deserves to Be Remembered Along with Brown
By Joseph J. Sabia
Mr. Sabia is a Ph.D. candidate in economics at Cornell University.
In recent weeks Americans gathered to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Brown decision, which overturned the “separate, but equal” doctrine and ordered the desegregation of public schools “with all deliberate speed.” However, many Southern schools dragged their feet on integration, with districts steadfastly refusing to obey the court order. When federal bureaucrats tried to intervene to force desegregation, tensions grew. Summing up the situation, Senator Richard Russell, D-GA, stated in 1970, “The people of (the South) are more worked up over this problem than anything I’ve seen in all my years in politics.” Enter Richard Nixon: racial healer.
In the fall of 1968, 68 percent of black children in the South were attending all-black schools. By 1974, that number had fallen to 8 percent. This extraordinary accomplishment was achieved through the shrewd political skills and raw courage of President Nixon, Secretary of Labor George Schultz, and Attorney General John Mitchell.
In his book With Nixon, speechwriter Ray Price outlined Nixon’s school desegregation goals:
Nixon’s aim was to use the minimum coercion necessary to achieve the essential national goal, to encourage local initiative, to respect diversity, and, to the extent possible, to treat the entire nation equally – blacks equally with whites, the South equally with the North.
Vice President Spiro Agnew was chosen to chair a special Cabinet Committee on Education, the purpose of which was to find the best course of action to peacefully desegregate Southern schools in accordance with a 1969 court order. This Cabinet committee voted to create several state advisory panels, which were staffed with a diverse cross-section of leaders from each Southern state. These committees included white segregationists, black leaders, and other government officials.
Initially, there was little reason to believe that these state advisory committees would accomplish much. But Nixon pressed on. On June 24, 1970, the president met with the 15-member Mississippi State Advisory Committee in the White House. As Nixon reported in his memoirs, one of the black committee members expressed his optimism:
The day before yesterday I was in jail for going to the wrong beach. Today, Mr. President, I am meeting you. If that’s possible anything can happen.
And it did. In an incredible gesture of good faith, Mississippi Manufacturers Association president Warren Wood and Biloxi NAACP president Dr. Gilbert Mason agreed to serve as co-chairman of the Mississippi committee. According to Price, Mason christened his new relationship with Wood by saying:
If you and I can’t do this, nobody else in the state of Mississippi can. We’re probably the only black and white men in the state who can get together on something like this.
Nixon met personally with seven state advisory committees, expressing his belief that they could work together to peacefully solve one of the great crises of our time:
With each of (the committees) I stressed the same points. First, I condemned the hypocrisy in much of the North about the segregation problem. I affirmed my belief that the South should be treated with understanding and patience, but I also stressed the need to solve the problem through peaceful compliance. Second, I emphasized my commitment to the principle of local leadership to solve local problems.
During the 1960s, many liberals self-righteously screamed about racism, demanding that the federal government coerce Southerners into racial integration. The result of their heavy-handed tactics was more racial antagonism.
The president tried a different approach – cooperation. Thanks to Nixon’s strong leadership, Shultz’s masterful negotiating skills and Mitchell’s ability to keep overzealous Justice Department officials in check, the state advisory committees were an overwhelming success.
In a 1970 memo, presidential counselor Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote, “There has been more change in the structure of American public school education in the last month than in the past 100 years.” And, like going to China, only Nixon could have done it.
While much is made over his “Southern strategy” in 1968, few understand that the Southern strategy brought the South back into the nation’s body politic by appealing to sentiments that united all Americans: patriotism, duty, and cooperation. Nixon refused to condescend to Southerners. He treated them as Americans, equal in every way to Northerners. And because Nixon took that course, he was able to achieve one of the greatest civil rights triumphs of the twenty-first century: the peaceful desegregation of Southern schools.
Nixon gets almost no credit for his civil rights efforts. Thanks to the liberal press, most Americans think that Nixon’s civil rights record consists of him making a few racist statements in the Oval Office. Given the historical record, this is a tragedy.
In the Brown celebrations, virtually no mentions of the former president were made. Nixon’s civil rights triumphs have been flushed down the memory hole. Moynihan summed it up in a December 1970 speech, transcribed by Price:
Since [Nixon assumed office]...the great symbol of racial subjugation, the dual school system of the South, virtually intact two years ago, has quietly and finally been dismantled. All in all, a record of good fortune and much genuine achievement. And yet how little the administration seems to be credited with what it has achieved.
If we are to honor the Supreme Court for its decision in Brown, we should also honor Richard Nixon for peacefully carrying out its historic judgment
For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago yea, LT. I noticed the other day the Mod of the group said something like he will not tolerate democrats being called demoCRAPS which is what they are..... 21 ME 918 |
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| Posted 4 months ago Lets look back at history now.
Lincoln freed the slaves. He was a republican right..? Nixon was the first President to sign the civil rights act. He was a republican right..? Wilson was a segregationist who enforced the Jim Crow laws in DC. He was a democrat right..?
For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago He is a bleeding heart liberal who has not tollerance for someone with a different point of view.... Reminds you of the communist HUH... Would explain why he is backing Obama who has a poster of Che (whats his face) hanging on the wall behind his desk For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Now that's just plain stupid of him. Deletes a thread, suspends a forums Mod (member) from a group for having a differing opinion. what a tool. I will start digging 6x6x6. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Ok now lets look at the current choices for the President..
We have a war hero........ Republican
Confessed ( in his own book that he wrote) drug dealer, and outspoken racist (called his own grandmother a ""typical white woman"")..... Democrat
....UHHHHH hard choice HUH..... For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago well what pisses me off is people say oh it's time for a change or Osama my bad Obama...will make history so they'll vote for him....they don't give a shit about his half ass views on things....how stupid can people really be..... 21 ME 918 |
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| Posted 4 months ago I have said nothing bad in any public forum or group about bad_LT or any one else and do not intend to, even through it looks like that will be the intention here to bash me. I have been accused for not being the Adult among other things. I have said nothing bad about anyone in any public post. Go at it guys, have fun. I don't do things like that. Oh and by the way you never did join the group when it was public or you still would have been in it when it turned private. I never kicked you out I just did not approve your request to join after the group turned private. It was clear you thought the rules of the group that the members liked were stupid. Why should I approve some one who hated the rules of the group. Simple as that. If you had really joined the group we would have had a reason to talk a about it. You had no interest in joining when it was public. |
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| Posted 4 months ago bad_LT says ...
Not trying to defend the Democrats, but what was it that President Lyndon B. Johnson signed into law on July 2, 1964? http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/archives.hom/speeches.hom/640702.asp And let us not forget December 5, 1946 what President Harry S. Truman, another Democrat, did in regards to Civil Rights with Presidential Executive Order 9808. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=60711 While I'm certainly not a big fan or supporter of most Democrats, and especially the current candidate, there have been many in the Democratic party that have brought some good things to the table in regards to Civil Rights. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Well trace at least your will to discuss it unlike some of the others For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Your so full of crap ballreward I bet your eyes are brown. You said the group was for open discussion. I have post the same thing here as I did in the other thread. You can not stand to have anyone say anything bad about a democrat or anything good about a republican period. You have shown that in you actions words and deeds. You have two sets of rules for that group, one for you and one for everyone else. It is Ok as long as everyone agrees with your liberal views, but if someone has a different set of views and shows hard evidence to prove a point you run and hide and refuse to face the facts... That is something a child would do hence the childish behavior remark. Face it the democrat party where the main oppressors of the civil rights movement and now have convinced people that they can not do anything good without thier help.. For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago One way to learn things is to discuss them. While those involved may not agree with what is being said at least you're given a chance to hear what the other is saying and you're given a chance to speak and tell your point(s) of view. In the end, maybe, just maybe, one side or both sides will have learned something they never knew. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Well when Truman did that he was chased not only out of the white house but out of the democrat party by the dixiecrats. They made the statement they would rather have a republican in the house than a democrat like him. Thats is why Truman faded away the way he did ajnd very few democrats to thid day will speak of him For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Ballreward as far as saying anything bad about people, show me one thing that I said that was not true. You said the group was open discussion... Turns out it is not You said anyone could discuss anything... Turns out they can not You closed the group after my comment proving my point..... Then refused me entry to the group I also bet your eyes are brown too For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago The stuff that LBJ signed was never truely enforced he did it to carry favor for the votes. Those who were alive back then know that the Kennedy and Johnson people where doing anything for a vote and did not mean to carry through with any of the promises they made... Hell history proves that they did not hold up to their end of the deal. If they had Nixon would have never needed to do what he did. Nixon was the one who signed the civil rights bill and the one who enforced it... Cold hard facts are hard to disprove unless your living in a dream land.. For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago trace1 says ...
Very well put. I think the point here is just because Views differ, why close the thread and lock it? If you want to start an quick arguement, bring up politics. This should be expected in a group like the one they are discussing. I have to agree with LT on this one, no sense in closing the topic on it. Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have. |
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| Posted 4 months ago Well Trooper that is because you are not acting like a child like some of the people here....LOL For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago And speaking of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, there are some that say...
So did the Democrats just steal the idea from the Republicans? |
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| Posted 4 months ago trace1 says ...
___________________________________________________________ I would not say they stole it but history shows that they were the ones to fought it every step of the way. Another key point I forgot that was in the orginal thread was that the KKK was started by the democrats in the south fighting the freedom of the slaves. For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Well looks like everyone else as other things to do. I am sure ballreward is in his little private liberal group talking trash. I noticed he said he never said anything bad about me in UHHH PUBLIC.... leads me to beleive he is trashing me in his liberal group knowing I can not respond with facts proving his retoric to be wrong... Well children will be children..... For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Current IssuesFor so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago nikkochey says ...
If he is a non leo, dump his ass! Total disrespect to a Moderator and a LEO no matter what the subject. I never discuss politics or religion so I missed the group but disrespect is disrespect no matter what side you are on. JMO. Being a Tyrant does not make one a Leader! |
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| Posted 4 months ago He is a CO if I banned him he would them claim to be a martyr and hailed as some bleeding heart poster child...LOL For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |
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| Posted 4 months ago Hey RC nice picture with the horse... For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life. The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320 SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!! |

