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Police Brotherhood: Where is it?


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New Police Officers need to realize that there's a brotherhood, or die

Just last night as I was leaving work, I seen a new officer walking into the station.  I had no idea who he was, never seen him before, but seen he was suited up and realized he was new.  As I was passing him, I said "How you doing?" and he responded "I'm good," and just kept walking.  Now many people wouldn't think twice about that, but I was thinking "aren't you going to ask how I'm doing," like "Good, how are you?"  But it got me thinking about something I'm seeing a lot more of in some new officers, almost a new generation of police officers who have a somewhat "me" attitude.  They don't realize this is a profession where you need your brothers and sisters in uniform.  They seem to only be concerned about themselves, because its not the first I've seen it and it seems to be getting worse.


 


But this story doesn't mean much in and of itself, in fact, its something I never would have thought twice about in the past.  A lot of new officers (not all) seem to have this attitude that they don't have to show respect to veteran officers, and a have a know-it-all attitude.


 

I can remember just a year ago training an officer.  It was obvious from day one that we were going to have problems.  I remember on one call, the officer was telling a person who we had issued a ticket to how to take care of it.  The officer simply forgot to mention something important, so I added (after the officer was done speaking) "Also, make sure you ask the court..." and I remember seeing this new officer roll her eyes at me in front of the person.  I couldn't believe it.  When we got back in the car, I told her "Don't ever roll your eyes to me when we're in front of someone."  But this wasn't the first incident with this officer.  This officer knew it all.  She would ask me to look over her reports (which is actually required as an Field Training Officer), and every time I did, she would be on the defensive explaining and defending why she didn't say something.  Finally I stopped reviewing them, and can remember her asking if I wanted to on a particular one.  I said "I'm sure its right, just get it approved by the sergeant."  The sergeant pulled me in his office and had me look at it.  It was horrible.  The elements of the crime were never even listed in it until the last paragraph, and the reader didn't even know what the story was about until the end.  It was very bad.  I explained to my sergeant the deal, and the report basically turned into a red kill zone (red ink explaining everything that's wrong with it).  Believe me, there were more incidents with this officer, and I finally refused to work with her.



 


"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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I would NEVER go into a Police Station as a New Hire and act like a know-it-all who only cares about himself. This whole new era of Police Officer's that think they know better than everybody else is a joke, how the hell are these people able to get HIRED?!?!?


"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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Bump-Not just for Illinois either


This is good for Rookies to read thank you for posting it.


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I see it as a generational thing. Our younger folks are taught that, "it's all about me." I'm afraid that we, as a country, are headed for trouble as a result. JMHO.


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Bump- I see this in Ohio all the time.  No ones perfect and were all in the same gang.  They really need to realize this...

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This has been going on back to before I started in 1975 . It is not a generational thing so much as an attitude . You must realise that Police Officers in many cases come from other work back rounds prior to becoming Police Officers. Some come right out of the cadet / reserve programs right after high school depending on the area that does not require a College Degree first. Then you have the Joe College kids that have been living in a fantasy world created by the Liberal Teachers that convince them they can change the world by talking nice to people. They have never had to work a day in there lives and believe they have all the answers. Now you take that conglomerate and send it thrue the Police Academy with all the same exact training. Some have to struggle to make it , others take it as a challenge, and some of the Whiz Kids Ace everything. You might think that a camaraderie and some form of bonding would have taken place in the Academy , like that camaraderie that takes place going thru Military Boot Camp , but no, because they are not broken down to equals and all need some type of help some where along the way weather it be physically or academically . (NOTED EXEPTION to most State Police Academies for State Police only, they are as close to a paramilitary training as you get because they are few in numbers and must handle there work in a different manner because they don't have the luxury of instant back-up "one riot, one ranger").  If you go into the job like a SPONGE and absorb the most you can from either a FTO or in some areas like when I was working , with a different Veteran Officer every month for twelve months. It was up to me to pick and choose what was best from each and incorporate it with my mind set. An other Joe College who was a Jurist Law practitioner came on about the same time I did , his goal was the Chiefs job period. He put on his Chrome Plated Knee Pads and back stabbed his way to the top , only to get fired for practicing law in the town he was chief of. He hurt a lot of people on his quest , myself included. But all the people he stepped on during his ascension , were there to step on his neck while he was on the way down. What I am trying to say is that you get out of the job , what you put into it. I never had a problem with back up when I needed it , he always needed help and never got it. If you understand the job and all its problems and pit falls , as long as you KEEP YOU PRIDE , INTEGRETY, HONOR , AND BE ALWAYS THERE FOR YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS , they will do the same for you. If you have a holier then though attitude , you might find yourself getting punched in the mouth and laid out flat by an informant that you almost got killed because you told the people he informed on that he was the source of the information , while your fellow Officer stood by and watched . Sometimes that's what it takes to wake somebody up. But in some circumstances it  does not make any difference . Academy definition of two separate types of A** H***S , situational and terminal. That not only applies to the people on the street , but to the people you work with. As long as you treat you fellow officers with respect and loyalty , they will (excepting the Terminal) make it thrue the vetting process and all will become like family , even the ones that are not quite on the same plane as you, but not on the "I am God kick" and wear there badge on their fore head, you will all be the better for your diversity and unity as Brothers and Sisters.


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Thanks for the insight guys.


"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

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We c this in alot of the college kids we hire and the C/O's that are hired for the road.  They think working in the jail is no different then workin on the road.

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KSP494 says ...



Bump-Not just for Illinois either


This is good for Rookies to read thank you for posting it.



Have to agree.


I was Capt. of Spec Ops at the SD, then Lt. for the State DOC, now Sgt. in a Seg unit. I see this every day. There is a "take everything for granted" and "life is a video game" attitude in alot of the younger ones. I am "old school" and will never take anything, especially life, for granted!


Professional Courtesy seems to have gone to the wayside. What a dangerous shame!


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KSP494 says ...



Bump-Not just for Illinois either


This is good for Rookies to read thank you for posting it.



Have to agree.


I was Capt. of Spec Ops at the SD, then Lt. for the State DOC, now Sgt. in a Seg unit. I see this every day. There is a "take everything for granted" and "life is a video game" attitude in alot of the younger ones. I am "old school" and will never take anything, especially life, for granted!


Professional Courtesy seems to have gone to the wayside. What a dangerous shame!



I so agree..

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Unfortunatly this issue isn't limited to LE. People just don't care about anything anymore including themselves- "it's all about the benjamins baby"


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