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Th_smokinchimp_max50

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I definitely do not like the tone of the last two posts by Chris in the "Recently Banned Members" thread, sounds like a threat to me (but hey, who am I to judge, I only did 30 years behind the badge). I have never taken kindly to threats, just don't like them, or respect those who initiate them.  I hope that everyone can adjust to the censorship and the threat of Banishment if you disagree with the powers that be here.  I will be going stealth for a while to see how things pan out.  Good Luck to everyone here, there are some great people on this site (Both LEO and non-Leo) who are a wealth of LEO career information and comedic wit.  I have enjoyed meeting you and spending time in the threads. I hope that the dark cloud that now hangs over PL does not inhibit you from expressing your opinions or standing up for your fellow LEOs when the need arises. If this post is viewed as being an attack on a fellow PL member and it is deemed necessary to Ban me, then so be it...........that was not the intent here.....just trying to express my heartfelt thoughts about an issue that has impacted me deeply. I am not a party to any group effort to exercise control or initiate problems for PL, this post represents my own personal feelings about an issue, and does not, in any way, reflect the feelings or thoughts of any other group or individual.  I expect that this will be shut down and vaulted because of its content......how very sad.


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B U M P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Sorry, I was out of state on a 1200-mile bike trip (my quiet little Honda amidst the roar of a bunch of Harleys, but it was still a blast,) so I haven't checked on PL in several days....so,  What's been going on?!?  (...just wondering..) 

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Agreed! and BUMP!


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BUMP


going stealth.................


All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke

100_0228_max50

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Well all I can say is as long as we do not break the rules we can say how we feel,  just do not say anything about the other group we can still show our support for those who cannot speak here, Chris has made it well know he will not change what has happened he has put out his rules,  so we can still say we feel it was wrong and could have been work out we can do this without disrespecting CC or his site,  we can still show support for our brothers,  we can still show police officers will stand by each other  and we are a family,   I just wish Chris would have listen to some of the ideas,  now I am concern were things are going I use to have a good feeling about this group and had respect for CC I thought he was far and just but now I do not have that same feeling I am only one officer no big wig with powers to make things happen,  I am just an Old retired officer that belongs to groups,  like I said I use to hand out card telling other officers about this site but those days are gone also,  all I have is my voice and the keyboard to make my thoughts know I belong to several groups that sponsor this site I feel I will be dropping those memberships what  I tell them will be my business no one else,  I do not believe in censorship I fought so people would have the right to free voice as many others have done,  I fought to protect those rights for all , then I became a police officer and gave all I could to keep people safe so they can stay safe and have free speech,   I have stood On line protecting groups free speech even though I did not like what they had to say but I stood the line with my brothers so others could say what they wanted one time in Pulaski Tn I stood the line so a group for people that hated everyone but there own kind,   I stood there while they called every name in the book the people on the other side called them every name you could think of and I wanted to be there with them because I fought so everyone no matter who they were Could have free speech so then we were called everything from both sides but this is America and we have the right to freedom of speech and that fight still goes on today many more will fight the same fight so everyone can have the freedom of speech no matter who they are and it concerns me were things will go when we no longer have that freedom why have so many fought and so many gave there all will it all be for nothing


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Retleo says ...



I definitely do not like the tone of the last two posts by Chris in the "Recently Banned Members" thread, sounds like a threat to me (but hey, who am I to judge, I only did 30 years behind the badge). I have never taken kindly to threats, just don't like them, or respect those who initiate them.  I hope that everyone can adjust to the censorship and the threat of Banishment if you disagree with the powers that be here.  I will be going stealth for a while to see how things pan out.  Good Luck to everyone here, there are some great people on this site (Both LEO and non-Leo) who are a wealth of LEO career information and comedic wit.  I have enjoyed meeting you and spending time in the threads. I hope that the dark cloud that now hangs over PL does not inhibit you from expressing your opinions or standing up for your fellow LEOs when the need arises. If this post is viewed as being an attack on a fellow PL member and it is deemed necessary to Ban me, then so be it...........that was not the intent here.....just trying to express my heartfelt thoughts about an issue that has impacted me deeply. I am not a party to any group effort to exercise control or initiate problems for PL, this post represents my own personal feelings about an issue, and does not, in any way, reflect the feelings or thoughts of any other group or individual.  I expect that this will be shut down and vaulted because of its content......how very sad.



BUMP BUMP BUMP


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100_0228_max50

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Bump


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I know I am fairly new with under 200 posts, but I am very disappointed in the direction that this site has taken in just my short time here and I already find myself not posting anymore.  I really did not know what transpired with the members banned and do not have much information as to the past problems with Mods quitting and the conflicts with Chris Cosgriff.  I actually slowed down my visits here prior to the bannings.  I am also not a member of BTV and I do not know what is going on over there, so I have no real bias already formed. 


I originally joined after being referred here due to the supposed "Verified LEO" status and I felt this may be another great resource for the sharing of information.  However the technical side of things is an utter failure here.  I don't have the time for the myspace, chit chat type of resource and features that PL seems to be.  I understand that many like the non technical stuff and like to kick their boots off and just relax, however a site based on professionals, needs to also be a good resource for the exchange of technical information restricted to within the community.  The majority of my posts were technical in nature, as I tried to share my experience that I have gained with my 19 years on the job.  I would also like to be able to draw on the collective experience of other professionals where assurance can be maintained as to where that information is coming from.  That does not work here at all.


Chris C. - 


I also agree that I did not care for the shark feeding type of frenzy atmosphere that this place seemed have and the utter abrasiveness of many of the members, even the LEO's.  This is the FIRST thing I noticed when I joined and I am aware of who the key players were / are.  With all due respect and without malice I say this, but unfortunately Chris, you have never strapped on the boots, vest, gun and badge, so no matter what, you will never truly be able to capture this audience in a forums type of environment.  From conversations that I have had with Sarge, I have come to respect him.  Do yourself a favor Chris and perhaps look more to him as far as Admin operations go if you are serious about this site becoming a top notch resource for LE professionals.  Sarge can be a person that other LEO's will want to help make this site a success.  If you want to alienate the true LE professionals and their wealth of knowledge and let this site just be a money generator than so be it.  The site may continue and be profitable, but it will never be a true powerhouse for LE related resources.  It could be much more and it should really serve the community from which it profits.  Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with profiting from this service and I am quite sure with the true support of the community, both sides can greatly benefit.   


I am not quitting the site, but if this gets my user name banned, than so be it.  Funny but that seems to be a common unwelcome feeling around here.  I guess for now, I will need to stick to the tried and true sites for technical LE related information. 


Surf

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Bump, Bump,Bump, were is this post at I can find it in my activity but I do not see it on that board anymore


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Surfer2

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I no longer see it on the GLE forums list either.

Surfer2

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I am sure the glitch will be noted, fixed and the thread totally removed.

Ghost_max50

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Bump........does this help, Tony?

Surfer2

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Don't think it helped tony.

Ghost_max50

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Guess not. This thread seems to be stuck in some sort of black hole.

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Retleo says ...



I definitely do not like the tone of the last two posts by Chris in the "Recently Banned Members" thread, sounds like a threat to me (but hey, who am I to judge, I only did 30 years behind the badge). I have never taken kindly to threats, just don't like them, or respect those who initiate them.  I hope that everyone can adjust to the censorship and the threat of Banishment if you disagree with the powers that be here.  I will be going stealth for a while to see how things pan out.  Good Luck to everyone here, there are some great people on this site (Both LEO and non-Leo) who are a wealth of LEO career information and comedic wit.  I have enjoyed meeting you and spending time in the threads. I hope that the dark cloud that now hangs over PL does not inhibit you from expressing your opinions or standing up for your fellow LEOs when the need arises. If this post is viewed as being an attack on a fellow PL member and it is deemed necessary to Ban me, then so be it...........that was not the intent here.....just trying to express my heartfelt thoughts about an issue that has impacted me deeply. I am not a party to any group effort to exercise control or initiate problems for PL, this post represents my own personal feelings about an issue, and does not, in any way, reflect the feelings or thoughts of any other group or individual.  I expect that this will be shut down and vaulted because of its content......how very sad.



Bump!

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Bump!!!


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Very well said, guys. I haven't decided whether I'm going to remain a member here, yet. But I sure won't be posting as much (I'd surely hate to get banned for expressing my opinion). Like one of our recently retired guys said...if you don't do anything, you won't be noticed and they won't come after you. All too true a sentiment or so it seems.

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Sad indeed.

Kazan_pics__9__max50

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I have to agree with Surf, I too thought the "Verified LEO status" was a way to find trusted resources and info. I don't post much, but I do lurk and DID enjoy reading all the posts in All topics. Now I read some topics and spend more time in the group sections. I don't know what went on while I was on vacation a week ago, but postings here have really taken a "flat tone" this past week.