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My name is Mike and I have been actively involved in the hiring process at one of my local departments since the beginning of February.  I made it through the written, physical fitness, the first interview, the polygraph, and the oral boards.  After I took the written exam, the class that I was in was told by the recruiting officer that if we made it through the oral boards we could consider ourselves hired.  I had my psychological evaluation a few weeks back, and I felt pretty good about it.  After all, I'm thirty-two years old; I have never been on any medication for any type of mental illness; I don't have have any anger issues; I have never been fired from a job in the twenty-two years that I have been working; and to the best of my knowledge their is nothing about my character that says that I could not do the job.  With that being said, I got a letter a couple of days ago saying that they appreciate my interest in the department...  Long story short, I was dropped from the process with no explanation as to why.  Common sense tells me that it has something to do with my psych. test.  But like I stated before, their is nothing about me that I know of would be a good reason to drop me after they have spent so much time and money to get me were I was.




After receiving the letter, and getting little help from the recruiting officer, I sent an email to the chief.  It was as professional of a letter as I could type asking for any explanation he could offer as to why this might of happened.  Of course I have yet to receive a reply (not that I was really expecting one).




I have a couple of questions that I hope someone may be able answer.  First, is it common for a police department to not give an explanation, only a letter, to someone that has made it as far in the hiring process as I did?  Second, If I in fact did fail the psychological evaluation, will that make it impossible for me to get hired any were else?  And last, was it a bad idea to email the chief?




I apologize for the length of this question.  Any information or advise would be greatly appreciated.  And I thank all the cops that I have gotten advise from in the past on PL.  It definitely helped me get as far as I did.  Thanks again and stay safe.








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  1. Yes, it is a common practice to get a letter with NO explanation (I speak from experience and went throught these same emotions)

  2. NO, you may still get hired by another Agency. If everything you say about yourself is true, then keep apllying!

  3. My opinion, you didn't get the job with that department, so if the Chief get's pissed at your email then so be it! Some Chief's are more then happy to respond, others get annoyed and hit the delete button. I don't think you did anything wrong, you are just looking for feedback and that's fine.


WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THIS MESS???

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I was told by the psychologist that I was too optomistic to be a cop and that I'd never make it through the first year. I told him he was wrong (but that was probably the optomism talking). I've now been at my department for almost two years and I LOVE it! Psychology is really only guessing anyway; quite a few departments don't put a lot of stock in their voodoo. Don't give up; keep trying! 


Oh for crying out loud!

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Thanks for the replies.  I am a little worried that other departments will see that I didn't get past the psych. and not wast time on me.  The thought of starting the process over again is nauseating, but I'm not ready to give up.  Thanks again.

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I had to take a new Psych Exam after a shooting back in 2001  the Doctor said he did not know how I lasted that long I was not crazy enough  believe me there will be other depts  and other test do not give up but if the doctor says you are 100% sane then look for another job


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Its not the psych , we never tell why you do not get hired

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How do you fail a psych. evaluation?


You walk into the shrink's office and say "I wanna kill." 


But seriously......


One thing to consider is what all the psych eval consisted of..... interviews, MMPI battery tests, etc.... it may be you, it may be a conflict between you & the shrink.... When I first went to get hired by the agency, they said I "half-failed" the eval and sent me for a 2nd one with a different shrink and I wound up getting hired.... then had to be "shrunk" annually as part of agency requirements...


 


 


 


 


 


anyone get the "Alice's Restaurant" reference?


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Ina_Pickle says ...



How do you fail a psych. evaluation?


You walk into the shrink's office and say "I wanna kill." 


But seriously......


One thing to consider is what all the psych eval consisted of..... interviews, MMPI battery tests, etc.... it may be you, it may be a conflict between you & the shrink.... When I first went to get hired by the agency, they said I "half-failed" the eval and sent me for a 2nd one with a different shrink and I wound up getting hired.... then had to be "shrunk" annually as part of agency requirements...


 


 



 haha



 


 


 


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Since the men in white suits didn't come to get you and you received no feedback as to why you weren't hired I wouldn't sweat it.  Maybe the chief's nephew needed a job, maybe it was the psyc eval, unless they tell you why you weren't hired you will never know.  Depending on the laws in your state they may or may not have to tell you why you did not get hired.  I would press a bit, like maybe a follow up letter to the chief or hiring body if it is different, requesting feedback.  This should not be an angry letter, but a letter asking why you were not hired.  It may simply have come down to another applicant being more to thier liking which is not unusual.  I would not beat myself up over this.  If you want to work in law enforcement just keep trying and gook luck.

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Easy to fail, just be honest and don't play games.  Pretty much a slam dunk to fail.

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Keep trying. I have very little faith in shrinks.

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"How do you fail a psych. evaluation?"


Show up wearing a straight jacket? :)


You can't cure stupid.

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psych's are a joke!  My wife took a psych for one dept and failed it.  She then took the psych for her current dept and passed.  You would assume it was two different psycologist (Wrong) same guy and the test was taken a week apart from each other!

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It could be as simple as they did not have enough open positions to take you. There are times they cannot give you the real reason because its aginst the law. Like you were older than the other applicants. you did not attend the chiefs church like the one hired. They may have been looking at a woman to make a quota, Or you did not fall into the race that they needed to hire and so on. So unless they told you it was the phyc you could have been beaten out by better applicants this time so find out if you could reapply in the future and also keep applying else where. All cops are a little bit off the rocker why else would we do this job.....oh i forgot the pay.lol


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There are 11 characteristics of a serial killer, you had 9 of them. just kidding I saw that on a show.


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KSP494 says ...



There are 11 characteristics of a serial killer, you had 9 of them. just kidding I saw that on a show.



Hahaha...and you said you didn't have a sense of humor....



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I wouldn't worry too much about it. Those tests are so fussy, not many professionals that I know take too much stock in them. You can fail those things if you're in too good of a mood that particular day. Keep applying...:) I wish you all the best!!


 


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Thanks everyone.  You have not only put my mind at ease, but made me laugh in the process.  Back to filling out applications.  Thanks for taking the time to reply.  Stay safe.

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We do not say why a candidate is passed over or removed from our eligibility lists. They are told, in the letter,  that they may request a civil service hearing, which will tell them the exact reasons. The hearings are considered a public record, so sometimes the candidate is better off not having the hearing. 


You don't so much "fail" a pysch test, as show tendencies that might disqualify you to be an officer, or might cause you to be a poor officer. For instance, the test may determine that you regard truthfulness as an unimportant character trait,  or that you have a problem getting along with other people. Both are problematic from a police liability standpoint.


The "Alice" reference was excellent!  Now, go sit on the Group W bench with the rest of your kind!


 


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According to LAPD you show up, talk to the headshrinker, then they fail you because you never showed up for the interview. Thats how they role.


Customs and Border Protection.....no psych. does this....disturb you?


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