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This is going to sound hilarious and might be a dumb question all at the same time, but I just got a job offer to work as a bouncer/security for one of the major strip clubs here around base. For all the old Camp Lejeune salt dogs who had a stint here, was Driftwood here in your time? Well back to my point, does this make me a scumbag, cause its a strip club? lol How would Houston PD whom I am in the middle of the hiring process with feel? Its good money and frankily I think it would be interesting and possibly good expierence having to throw drunk perverts out all night? Any thoughts on this anyone on whether this is a good idea or not? I am asking purely because of the nature of where its at, a strip club. Well thank you to all who answer and as always God Bless!!

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As a side note, this is just until my contract ends with the USMC in april.

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Hey, a job is a job...its honest work.....

Rotti_max50

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Working a strip club is hard.  Yes the money is good, for a reason, they don't want problems and any that arise they want them delt with in a swift and decisive conclusion.  What is the Corps stance on this type of off base employment and what if the jerk you have to throw out is in your company or a higher ranking person.  If your in the middle of processing for the Houston PD, that is your future, you do not need any static that may arise from this type of employment.


Thank you for your service to our Great Nation.


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Off base employment is allowed especially in my case because I am on a FAP, which means I am a small arms instrucor for the training center. I was formally a machinegunner, but do to the fact that i get out so soon and dont have enough time to deploy with my old unit, i do this while I await discharge, I already work at a furniture store. And in terms of higher ranks, that is completely out the window when alchol is invovled. When alochol is invovled the Marine Corp will stay out, in terms of issues invovling rank and disrespect. I also see what you are saying with possible future problems. I am taking it you are saying dont do it? Thats why I am here, if so, then Im not doin it, im not risking my future for a part time job, thank you for your reply sir.

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working at a strip club is fine........especially if you intro me to some of the girls :)

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PSDTeamLeader says ...



working at a strip club is fine........especially if you intro me to some of the girls :)



 


we might be able to work out somethin on the side, let me know if you come through Camp Lejeune anytime, LOL LOL.....

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Just my two cents worth.  How far along are you in the process?  If you're close to being hired, don't risk any possibilities.  I bounced for a few years before being hired, and it almost cost me the chance.  I got into a fight, and the other party ended up severely injured.  I was investigated and cleared of wrongdoing, but the process took a while.  If I was on the list at that time, my name would have been removed until the investigation was over.  Not trying to keep you away from the fun jobs, but just be aware of the chance that through no fault of your own, some drunk idiot could have repercussions on your potential career.


We have an external job policy ay my department, and also have numerous jobs lined up by the city.  The only restriction to the extra jobs is that you cannot work at an establishment whose primary source of income is alcohol.  The reason is liability.  When people drink, they get stupid.  Not all, but all the ones that do seem to require our intervention.  I just don't trust anyone else enough to put the career that I worked hard to get, on the line.


Good luck


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- Theodore Roosevelt

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Just my two cents worth.  How far along are you in the process?  If you're close to being hired, don't risk any possibilities.  I bounced for a few years before being hired, and it almost cost me the chance.  I got into a fight, and the other party ended up severely injured.  I was investigated and cleared of wrongdoing, but the process took a while.  If I was on the list at that time, my name would have been removed until the investigation was over.  Not trying to keep you away from the fun jobs, but just be aware of the chance that through no fault of your own, some drunk idiot could have repercussions on your potential career.


We have an external job policy ay my department, and also have numerous jobs lined up by the city.  The only restriction to the extra jobs is that you cannot work at an establishment whose primary source of income is alcohol.  The reason is liability.  When people drink, they get stupid.  Not all, but all the ones that do seem to require our intervention.  I just don't trust anyone else enough to put the career that I worked hard to get, on the line.


Good luck


 


 


The only thing I have left is the polygraph, medical and phycological evaluations, everything else is complete, so Im guessing Im somewhat deep into the hiring process.


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Tough and dangerous work.  Your probability of getting into a physical altercation is heightened because of the alcohol served there and people will challenge you (drunks are the worst, no reasoning with them).  It's a job, but be aware of the possible consequences, especially if you're trying to keep your nose clean for LE employment.


Be careful and stay safe!


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If you gentlemen showed up on the scene of an altercation of a bouncer vs. a drunk suspect and it was physical, what do you do? At what point can the bouncer find himself in danger with LE? Im asking in regards to most of you saying the possiblilty of getting in trouble is heightened. Im more than likely not going to take this job, cause it sounds risky, but if you dont mind me asking what could something a bouncer does get him the dog house with you guys?

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Any time you work in an environment where alcohol is being served, people (drunks) gain extra appendages.  They call them "Beer Balls." They tend to think they gain strength and can kick anybody's a$$, including the bouncers and the Police.  They sober up the next day, with their arm in a sling, and tell everyone that the cops and the bouncer beat him up for no reason.  Ambulance chasing lawyers get involved telling their clients that they can get them some extra cash for this.  Even though you were in the right, he sues you.


Remember that thousand page application you were talking about?  There's a question about, "Are you involved in any pending lawsuits?"  Guess what.  You are now explaining to an Investigator or Police Board Commissioner why you are being sued.


As for showing up to a fight call at a strip club (numerous Officers will respond thinking it's a cat fight between the girls....darn it....but they will be there anyways because it's at a STRIP CLUB) it all depends on the situation.  We know it's usually the patron who is at fault.  Some bouncers get carried away too.  Not listening to the Police when we arrive and calling the Police all the time (one thing us Cops hate is going to the same place over and over again for the same thing) will get you in a little hot water.


Good luck with Houston PD and thank you for your service to our Country!


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I've seen more than one person get jammed up because of a drunk and a ambulance chaser wanting to sue a club. is short term money worth a career

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Hmmm,  Good money now or future career for life. In the long term which is more important ?  Who knows maybe nothing would happen at a strip club with drunks  every night, but  then again "if" something does would it or could it  hurt your chances ? maybe , maybe not. I'm thinking it's not worth the risk  just my thoughts.

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Hey bro, you are going to get a belly full of lawsuits soon enough once you are on the road in Houston. Part of the job. Even if the Corps stays out of most of these kinds of things it won't be able to if there is an event the puts a Marine in a hospital and he misses a deployment over it. You know missing a movement means trouble. Suddenly you are on legal hold at "his" Courts Marshal. Really sucks to get jabbed for someone else's foul up.  If you really need that extra cash try working security at the Piggly Wiggly in Hubert, not much action and less chance of the legal mess.  The Driftwood... hmmm sounds familiar, but I can't be sure. Where on the strip is it, near Court Street, Lejeune Blvd, or on 24?


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Been there done that, if you are already in the hiring process for a PD, it would foolish to take the risk, there are too many pit falls for me to list, but Taff hit on a few.

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I had several strippers working for me as informants when i was buying dope, most of these girls are on the fine edge of the law. usually involved in several scams from hooking to dope to writing checks and extortion. The protection at the clubs is frequently bikers and the over reaching managment can be clearly mob connected. I would think twice about this relationship particualry in applying as a police candidate. You might find yourself turning a blind eye to things that you really shouldnt.

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Hey great pay but don't forget one thing you can get arrested for assault as well in a altercation which can affect you future employment with any police department, food for thought brother!!


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What I ment by higher ranking individuals, was you a short timer, you want it to go a smooth as possible, you don't need any static from a moron who can bust chops for the hell of it.


As to showing up on the scene of one of these altercations, remember this, everyone has an equal right to be a complainant, especially if there is a lot of damage to the jerk getting tossed.


You are well into the process, get the job!


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What I ment by higher ranking individuals, was you a short timer, you want it to go a smooth as possible, you don't need any static from a moron who can bust chops for the hell of it.


As to showing up on the scene of one of these altercations, remember this, everyone has an equal right to be a complainant, especially if there is a lot of damage to the jerk getting tossed.


You are well into the process, get the job!


Bump Sarge!!!



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I would stay away from that job. As previously stated you could end up getting sued or some drunk could try to fill charges on you.


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Well thats all I need to hear, case sealed!! I called them today and told them thanks, but no thanks. To many of you LEO's saying its a no go, so therefore Im not doin it. Thank you all for the advice. I didnt quite think about the big picture and all the possilibties that could come. Thank you once again and God Bless!!!!!Stay safe

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Smart move, I do BGs and my Chief would place you in the circular file before you hit my desk.  Good luck w/ Houston PD.

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Well thats all I need to hear, case sealed!! I called them today and told them thanks, but no thanks. To many of you LEO's saying its a no go, so therefore Im not doin it. Thank you all for the advice. I didnt quite think about the big picture and all the possilibties that could come. Thank you once again and God Bless!!!!!Stay safe


Matt your the man, great move and from all of here in police link, thank you for your service to our great nation, our best in law enforcement.


Its still the greatest show on earth!




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shockusmc87 says ...



Its still the greatest show on earth!



Well... Muppet Treasure Island wasn't bad. 



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If you gentlemen showed up on the scene of an altercation of a bouncer vs. a drunk suspect and it was physical, what do you do? At what point can the bouncer find himself in danger with LE? Im asking in regards to most of you saying the possiblilty of getting in trouble is heightened. Im more than likely not going to take this job, cause it sounds risky, but if you dont mind me asking what could something a bouncer does get him the dog house with you guys?



 


Ok. This one I can help you with as both a retired Army SFC, and a current full time LEO with a strip club in my jurisdiction which is located right next to the Army’s Fort Sill, OK. We end up arresting bouncers & customers all the time for use of excessive force and/or assault & battery (sometimes aggravated). Sometimes the DA prosecutes, sometimes he/she drops them. And there is also always the civil liability (which I am sure the club would be more than happy to NOT PAY your legal fees for). The problem is as some of the prior postings have correctly stated you cannot be under investigation for ANYTHING and be on a hiring list. I worked as a Part Time Reserve Commissioned LEO for my last 12 years in the Army. May I suggest you do the same and see if you can get picked up somewhere in SC near your res as a Reserve Officer? Most Sheriff’s Departments use Reserves, especially in the southern half of the country. Good luck Devil Dog!!

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DON'T do it!


I have had friends that did that as an off duty and ended up getting fired because of the "consorting" theory. Remember that there are probably prostitutes and druggies in there and you do not want a blemish of this type on your record.


Either be a cop and have some  morals and ethics or find something else to do with your life.


Oh well!


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Don't Do It.......


Way too big of a hole to open around you...too many unknowns...I'll echo what's been said already....why put yourself in that position of trying to explain a b.s. assault arrest or lawsuit to your background investigator....Cool place to work I would imagine(fringe benfits!!!), for a short time, but I bet you find yourself burned out pretty quick. Dealing with biligerent drunks night after night(especially drunk biligerent Marines, I've been there done that, USMC 89-93)will wear on you quickly.


And then I'll add to what's been said already too...never met a completely honest, on the up & up stripper in my life...and I've met quite a few...lol, no comment.


So, once again, I vote NO......Good luck to you in your future endeavors btw....


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Yea I would have to agree that the job is not worth the risk here guy, too many WHAT IF'S involved and one little mistake or incident & your future employment could be jeopardized. I would do something as low key as possible until you find the job your looking for as a career and not put yourself in any situations that could ruin your life. Even a FALSE accusation from some pissed off patron could get you in hot water and then you'll have a record which will ruin everything you have worked so hard to get thus far. Just my opinion of course, but I've already lived the dream job of being a cop and I wouldn't have risked anything that would not have allowed me to see the "Best Show on Earth" It was worth the sacrifices I made and in the end it will for you too. Good Luck on your future and thanks for your service to our great nation !


Bill

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shockusmc87 says ...



Well thats all I need to hear, case sealed!! I called them today and told them thanks, but no thanks. To many of you LEO's saying its a no go, so therefore Im not doin it. Thank you all for the advice. I didnt quite think about the big picture and all the possilibties that could come. Thank you once again and God Bless!!!!!Stay safe



You made the right decision. What's important right now is getting hired by the PD. It pains me to say it but, Nothing good could come from that job.

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