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Petebombsuit1b_max50

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Ongoing survey seeks consensus on what's "reasonable" use of force
When the U.S. Supreme Court declared in its landmark case Graham v. Connor that force used by law officers must be "objectively reasonable," Sam Faulkner had a question:

What's "reasonable"?

The Court provided "no definitive answer regarding what a reasonable officer is or does," says Faulkner, an instructor at the Ohio Peace Officers Training Academy and a lieutenant with the Mechanicsburg (OH) PD. This left cops "sent forth to our nation's streets with enforcement duties but no well-defined rules of engagement."

Consequently, "it's possible for an officer to follow his training, departmental policy, and the wishes of his supervisory staff, be sued or charged criminally, and find that the judge or jury deems his responses inappropriate."

He likens it to a football game in which "after every play, 8 to 12 people are brought in who have never played the game, and they decide if you played correctly. Would you want to play under those rules?"

Indeed, charges Faulkner, the uncertainty "can-and has-prompted some officers to say either, 'Since they're going to screw me anyway, I'll make it worth my while,' or, 'I just won't get involved.' Either of these approaches to policing, of course, is inappropriate and unacceptable."

The 59-year-old Faulkner has made it his life mission to de-fog the ambiguity of Graham and provide well-defined guidelines that are supported by most officers and most civilians alike as to what constitutes "reasonable" police responses in force confrontations.

His vehicle is a simple, short opinion poll, now available on-line, in which police and correctional officers and civilians are asked what responses they believe are appropriate to various level of resistance from suspects, ranging from back-talk to potentially lethal attacks.

More than 40,000 officers and some 8,000 civilians have participated in the survey so far, with the number growing daily. You can add your input (LINK TO SURVEY IS AT THE END OF THIS EMAIL) The cumulative tallies show a remarkable consensus about what's reasonable and thus, in Faulkner's view, constitute at least a powerful beginning of national guidelines for response to resistance. Already, appearing as an expert witness in civil suits, Faulkner says he has successfully used the survey results in more than 260 cases to help defeat plaintiffs' exaggerated claims of excessive force.

"When a plaintiff's expert testifies against an officer, he basically has a personal opinion and his resume to back it up," Faulkner told Force Science News. "By getting the survey introduced into evidence, the defendant officer usually can show that thousands of his fellow professionals, as well as a cross-section of ordinary civilians, concur that his actions were appropriate, given the circumstances he faced. That's tough for a plaintiff to overcome."

Faulkner started his poll in 1990 as a pencil-and-paper survey conducted among his classes at the Ohio state academy, but he quickly sought a broader test group. "The first year, I put more than 30,000 miles on my personal car, plus air miles, traveling to other states" to capture officers' opinions, he recalls. In some cases, he has surveyed entire agencies, large and small, on site. But it's the Internet that has given him his widest reach. He says he has surveyed officers from every state and from hundreds of agencies, municipal through federal, and civilians from communities in every region of the country.

Faulkner's on-line survey takes only moments to complete. Following prompts, you first enter your personal demographics: age, gender, education and income levels, race, and so on. Then, one at a time, you watch 5 different short video clips depicting increasing levels of suspect resistance and an officer's escalating physical reactions. In each case, it's assumed that the suspect is aware that he is under arrest, the arrest is lawful, and the subject is intentionally resisting an officer's attempt to take control of him.

In the first scenario, for example, the subject "is not responding to an officer's instructions or commands, or offers verbal threats or physical signs of resistance." You are asked to check whether you agree or disagree that the officer is acting reasonably if he issues verbal or physical commands, calls for assistance from other officers, uses a "gentle hold on the subject's arm" from an escort position, or uses "balance displacement" to move the subject. If you object to any of these options for dealing with this level of resistance, you are asked to specify which one(s) you believe to be unreasonable.

The subsequent scenarios depict resistance that ranges from dead-weight immobility and pulling away through wrestling, striking, and kicking to attempts at disarming and overt assaults with deadly weapons. You are asked to gauge the reasonableness of responses that range from joint manipulations and takedowns, baton strikes and use of electrical devices, to neck restraints and lethal force.

The final survey component asks you to rank various suspect behaviors (verbal resistance, pushing the officer away, attempting to take the officer's firearm, etc.) as to how much of a threat they represent, on a scale of 1 to 10.

After that, you can see how your responses to the resistance scenarios compare to those registered by other survey takers.



http://www.responsetoresistance.com/survey_start.aspx

Pete

Pete C. Chambers
Captain
Crisp County S. O. / E.M.A.

Petebombsuit1b_max50

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If you take this survey and think it is a good idea for other LEOs to do so as well (I did or I would not have listed it), please reply here saying so. I am requesting this so that it might encourage others to do so as well. Have a SAFE and HAPPY New Years.

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I can personnally vouch for Sam Faulkner. He is one of the most dynamic instructors that I have ever met. Sam is a long-time instructor at the Ohio Peace Officers Training Academy. Sam serves as an expert witness in use of force/deadly force cases throughout the US. He is at least partially responsible for developing the response to defense claims that their client was "shot in the back" by demonstrating the dynamics involved in use of force situations.

Underdog2_max50

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very good...... I took the cop one now going to take the non cop one...


For so long as one hundred men remain alive, we shall never under any conditions submit to the domination of the English. It is not for glory or riches or honours that we fight, but only for liberty, which no good man will consent to lose but with his life.

The Declaration of Arbroath, 1320

SCREW TIBET FREE SCOTLAND !!!!

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Pretty cool survey.

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I took the survey. As a former LEO it was thought provoking to work through the scenarios. Pete, Thanks for the heads up!

2ndlar_max50

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Im forwarding the survey to all officers in my district. much thanks!

Avatar_max50

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I took the survey.

Photo_user_blank_big

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I took it. Interesting to see the results at the end, on how numbers broke down.

Yeh_max50

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I took the survey. The results (pie charts) were not surprising. I also sent the link to our training sergeant for distribution consideration.

Monkey_in_glasses_max50

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I took it and am worried about who disagreed with some of them....

Taz_2_1__max50

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sgt457 said:

I can personnally vouch for Sam Faulkner. He is one of the most dynamic instructors that I have ever met. Sam is a long-time instructor at the Ohio Peace Officers Training Academy. Sam serves as an expert witness in use of force/deadly force cases throughout the US. He is at least partially responsible for developing the response to defense claims that their client was "shot in the back" by demonstrating the dynamics involved in use of force situations.

Amen to that I have trained AND been certified by Sam HE is a COPS cop he demenstratrated and WE performed "dodging bullets" and the technique used .. not 100% but did work in a live fire of simunition MOST of the time


conflicts are not determined by who is right BUT by who is left

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I took the survey very interesting

Grim_max50

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I took it.

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took it

000_0480_max50

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I took the survey

Scan_max50

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I took it .

Michael_and_leo_max50

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The Court provided “no definitive answer regarding what a reasonable officer is or does,” says Faulkner, an instructor at the Ohio Peace Officers Training Academy and a lieutenant with the Mechanicsburg (OH) PD. This left cops “sent forth to our nation’s streets with enforcement duties but no well-defined rules of engagement.”

WOW! SOMETHING NEW...THE COURT PROVIDES NO DEFINITE ANSWER REGARDING WHAT IS REASONABLENESS...AIN'T THAT A FIRST...

Michael_and_leo_max50

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I TOOK THE SURVEY.

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I think its good that the courts have not said black and white what is reasonable and what isnt. Every situation is different.

Petebombsuit1b_max50

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mpdk9214 said:

I think its good that the courts have not said black and white what is reasonable and what isnt. Every situation is different.

I agree with you 100%. I recall the 1st shoot-out I was involved in. Afterwards there were several fellow Agents who asked: "Why didn't you do _______?" or "I would have ______." I learned very quickly that it's very hard to say what anyone "would have done" if they were not there AND standing in the same shoes, seeing the exact same thing(s) that you are seeing at the time. Too often we have people, especially those who have never "walked in the shoes" of a LEO, Monday morning Q-back our actions.

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sgt457 said:

I can personnally vouch for Sam Faulkner. He is one of the most dynamic instructors that I have ever met. Sam is a long-time instructor at the Ohio Peace Officers Training Academy. Sam serves as an expert witness in use of force/deadly force cases throughout the US. He is at least partially responsible for developing the response to defense claims that their client was "shot in the back" by demonstrating the dynamics involved in use of force situations.

When it comes to Use of Force issues, you want Sam in your corner. I have had Sam as an instructor in the past and and as my Academy Commandant back in the day. He knows his stuff. He is down to earth. A COPS' COP!! I'm glad to see the survey make it on here. Keep it going to EVERYONE!

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Took both of them, surprisenly the result were the same. Very good, passed on to our director.

Jim_b_max50

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On the way to take both of them.

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I took the survey...very good. Thank you for sharing the site with us.

Jim_b_max50

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I could not disagree with any of the tactics personally but I can see where some might object, especially the civilians BUT......I was totally shocked at the number that said that we can never use deadly force even to protect ourselves! Now that is just stupid! Let them stand there and have someone pull a knife or gun on them while they have a gun in their hands and see if they don't drop the hammer on them.

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I took the survey... it's good to go!

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dp0577 said:

I took it and am worried about who disagreed with some of them....

I took it and found a lot of them to be no brainers. I went against the choke hold because of policy. I agree with dp0577 as far as so many disagreeing with deadly force when the threat faced clearly would have risk of serious bodily injury or death.

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Rated 0 | Posted 6 months ago

 

I want to and started to take the survey but I have a few questions that I hope someone here can answer. Who is sponsoring or paying for that site? Who is collecting this info and for what purpose? Lastly and this is more of an observation, They sure want allot of specific info prior to taking a survey.


monkey dance "When you have ruled out the Probable and the Possible then all that is left can only be the Improbable and the Impossible..." Sherlock

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I voted against the Choke hold part but I know if it is hitting the fan and the only thing I can do is choke, well I guess I will be home to tuck the kids in.

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